Todd_is_God Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: They've been doing it in Japan and other Asian countries for a long time. That doesn't mean they work, though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nearly-one-in-five-covid-patients-later-diagnosed-with-mental-illness-study?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 There’s a story in the Sun today that the Test and Protect app has been performing significantly worse than previously thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That doesn't mean they work, though My understanding is that the issue that has discouraged mask use in western countries is more that you have to use them properly for there to be a net positive effect rather than there being an overall lack of efficacy when the instructions are followed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauzen Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I've had the app switched on for a month now and it's not buzzed once. I was so much better at Pokémon Go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just picking up this absolutely hilarious statement by Dido Harding: Quote “As schools came back we saw demand significantly outstrip [the] planned capacity delivery,” she said, adding a similar surge in demand was seen in Scotland. “None of us were able to predict that in advance,” she said. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nhs-test-and-trace-dido-harding-says-scheme-failed-to-predict-demand It's utterly inexplicable that the scheme failed to foresee a spike in demand at the start of autumn. You had plenty of students returning to school and university as well as an increasing number of people heading back to work all at the same time. A perfect recipe alone for an increase in the spread of viruses and demand for testing. At this time of year, especially with students returning to school, all sorts of bugs and viruses are spread with many of them having similar symptoms to those listed for COVID-19. The UK (and Scottish) Government firing ahead and opening more of the country up and turbo charging it with the EOTHO scheme encouraged folk to head to pubs, restaurants, cafes etc leading to spikes in cases before the schools, universities etc opened up. With more and more folk able to travel to other countries than they were previously able to, and with some of these countries seeing spikes in infections, returning travellers would of course want to get tested to find out if they had contracted the virus so there will be more demand for testing. There's been a lot of discussions about the effects on mental health from this pandemic. Anxiety levels are sky high for a lot of folk and can mimic and accentuate some of the symptoms of COVID-19 therefore, ahead of returning to work or school, this would likely drive demand for testing. Hancock and Johnson continually boasted about how good their test and trace system was and that on the spot testing would be available for anyone who wanted it leading people to believe that anyone who wanted to get tested could get tested. And to top it all off the utter moron herself Harding told people that anyone who "just wasn't feeling right" should go and get tested. But yeah, apart from any of that, no way to predict an upsurge in demand for testing 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 They need to hand over test and trace to local health boards rather than some useless private company 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I for one cannot wait to see how the government accidentally contaminates every sample of Vaccine in January. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, mizfit said: I for one cannot wait to see how the government accidentally contaminates every sample of Vaccine in January. No not that. The vaccines will be driven from Germany in January but bizarrely there will be a huge unforseen traffic jam in Kent and all the vaccines will be spoilt before they get any further. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Given the case loads seemed so low on Monday and tuesday, are we expecting a shedload of cases today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: They need to hand over test and trace to local health boards rather than some useless private company In Scotland, it is run by thr NHS, not private companies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 In Scotland, it is run by thr NHS, not private companies.Good, didn't realise. Just England then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, RiG said: Just picking up this absolutely hilarious statement by Dido Harding: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nhs-test-and-trace-dido-harding-says-scheme-failed-to-predict-demand It's utterly inexplicable that the scheme failed to foresee a spike in demand at the start of autumn. You had plenty of students returning to school and university as well as an increasing number of people heading back to work all at the same time. A perfect recipe alone for an increase in the spread of viruses and demand for testing. At this time of year, especially with students returning to school, all sorts of bugs and viruses are spread with many of them having similar symptoms to those listed for COVID-19. The UK (and Scottish) Government firing ahead and opening more of the country up and turbo charging it with the EOTHO scheme encouraged folk to head to pubs, restaurants, cafes etc leading to spikes in cases before the schools, universities etc opened up. With more and more folk able to travel to other countries than they were previously able to, and with some of these countries seeing spikes in infections, returning travellers would of course want to get tested to find out if they had contracted the virus so there will be more demand for testing. There's been a lot of discussions about the effects on mental health from this pandemic. Anxiety levels are sky high for a lot of folk and can mimic and accentuate some of the symptoms of COVID-19 therefore, ahead of returning to work or school, this would likely drive demand for testing. Hancock and Johnson continually boasted about how good their test and trace system was and that on the spot testing would be available for anyone who wanted it leading people to believe that anyone who wanted to get tested could get tested. And to top it all off the utter moron herself Harding told people that anyone who "just wasn't feeling right" should go and get tested. But yeah, apart from any of that, no way to predict an upsurge in demand for testing Typhoid Dido trending on twitter. Will she be the first big name to get dropped from the covid19 team or will the inept Hancock be hooked, these are the big decisions Cummings will have to make to get the board back onside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Bolsonaro still dealing with Covid in his own inimitable style. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Bolsonaro still dealing with Covid in his own inimitable style. Boris dyed his hair -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Pfizer CEO sells 62% of his shares on the day of the announcement. Predetermined trading plan from Aug 19. https://markets.businessinsider.com/amp/news/pfizer-ceo-sold-stock-day-covid-19-vaccine-results-unveiled-2020-11-1029790705?__twitter_impression=true Lucky for him the timing was great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, ICTChris said: There’s a story in the Sun today that the Test and Protect app has been performing significantly worse than previously thought. Probably because it relies on folk putting the code in. 2 hours ago, mizfit said: I for one cannot wait to see how the government accidentally contaminates every sample of Vaccine in January. The obvious choice will be storing the vaccine at -8 rather than -80 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Pfizer CEO sells 62% of his shares on the day of the announcement. Predetermined trading plan from Aug 19. https://markets.businessinsider.com/amp/news/pfizer-ceo-sold-stock-day-covid-19-vaccine-results-unveiled-2020-11-1029790705?__twitter_impression=true Lucky for him the timing was great. Seems anything is legal with decent lawyers and accountants (see Craig Whyte). Looks like the timing of the mid trial announcement was neither political nor arbitrary after all. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rule-10b5-1.asp Edited November 11, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, D.A.F.C said: 3 hours ago, renton said: In Scotland, it is run by thr NHS, not private companies. Good, didn't realise. Just England then? https://news.stv.tv/politics/test-and-protect-performing-five-times-worse-than-claimed?top&&__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 https://news.stv.tv/politics/test-and-protect-performing-five-times-worse-than-claimed?top&&__twitter_impression=trueBrilliant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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