101 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Estimates need to be completed by 28 May - most LAs will want them in before that point to allow for cross-authority moderation - you are looking at the beginning of May for this to happen. There isn't an extra 4 weeks - not unless the Depute First Minister instructs SQA to shift the goalposts (again). Surely there is still teaching that can be done once the final course work is submitted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Looking at school (summer) holidays lengths in weeks across Europe.... Italy-14 weeks Spain-13 weeks Greece-13 weeks Finland 11 weeks Portugal-11 weeks Sweden-10 weeks Ireland-9 weeks Scotland-6 weeks (was cut to 5 this past year) So, if we take the upper numbers, Italian and Spanish pupils are on holiday for 7 or 8 weeks longer than in Scotland. (in the summer), The time for which schools used online learning between March and June was 13 weeks. Average holiday times in the rest of Europe at other times of the year are generally 2 weeks at Christmas, (same as Scotland), 2 weeks in Spring (same as Scotland), one week in autumn (generally the same as Scotland). In other words, Scotland still has among the shortest school holidays compared with Europe overall. https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-policies/eurydice/sites/eurydice/files/school_calendar_2018_19_final_report_0.pdf We are consistently told by governments that children have already missed too much school/education (over that 13 weeks between March-June, which equates to one term). Yet across Europe schools were also online in the March-June period, and then had their sometimes double summer holiday on top. Countries such as Finland and Sweden (with 5 weeks additional school holiday to Scotland) consistently outperform us. So,......is it still the case that educational standards would be unable to 'catch up' if schools moved online for an additional couple of weeks? when other countries with significantly shorter classroom terms don't seem to facing the same issues? I accept the fact that there remains a gap in IT provision for those with access to online learning and those without which is an important factor. (the SG said this would be addressed last summer....it hasn't been). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: https://swprs.org/who-preliminary-review-confirms-ivermectin-effectiveness/?amp&__twitter_impression=true Quick scan around google yields more negative news than positive re Ivermectin, but nothing as recent as that article. Hopefully good news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paco Posted January 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2021 On vaccination pace thus far, it should be stressed that Scotland is first in the UK and third in the entire world in terms of vaccinations per head. Only Israel and Bahrain are ahead, and both have vaccinated more people than we have doses at the moment. This idea we’re sitting about scratching our arses is just not accurate. The problem is supply - that is hopefully in the process of being solved now. I’m doubtful it’ll hit the numbers claimed but if it does, the wider UK should be close to doing the 2m a week that is, apparently, the aim. If supplies pull through and we’re not hitting at least 100k a week by the end of January, or the other parts of the UK are vaccinating at a faster pace, let’s start getting annoyed. But right now the facts don’t back up the idea that we’re vaccinating slowly. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Jedi said: Looking at school (summer) holidays lengths in weeks across Europe.... Italy-14 weeks Spain-13 weeks Greece-13 weeks Finland 11 weeks Portugal-11 weeks Sweden-10 weeks Ireland-9 weeks Scotland-6 weeks (was cut to 5 this past year) So, if we take the upper numbers, Italian and Spanish pupils are on holiday for 7 or 8 weeks longer than in Scotland. (in the summer), The time for which schools used online learning between March and June was 13 weeks. Average holiday times in the rest of Europe at other times of the year are generally 2 weeks at Christmas, (same as Scotland), 2 weeks in Spring (same as Scotland), one week in autumn (generally the same as Scotland). In other words, Scotland still has among the shortest school holidays compared with Europe overall. https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-policies/eurydice/sites/eurydice/files/school_calendar_2018_19_final_report_0.pdf We are consistently told by governments that children have already missed too much school/education (over that 13 weeks between March-June, which equates to one term). Yet across Europe schools were also online in the March-June period, and then had their sometimes double summer holiday on top. Countries such as Finland and Sweden (with 5 weeks additional school holiday to Scotland) consistently outperform us. So,......is it still the case that educational standards would be unable to 'catch up' if schools moved online for an additional couple of weeks? when other countries with significantly shorter classroom terms don't seem to facing the same issues? I accept the fact that there remains a gap in IT provision for those with access to online learning and those without which is an important factor. (the SG said this would be addressed last summer....it hasn't been). I think you only have to look at our appalling levels of child poverty combined with employers stuck in 29 days leave (if you're lucky) system them I don't think it's sensible at this time to extend holidays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, 101 said: I think you only have to look at our appalling levels of child poverty combined with employers stuck in 29 days leave (if you're lucky) system them I don't think it's sensible at this time to extend holidays. I don't advocate increasing holidays...more the point that we keep hearing impossible to catch up the 'lost' weeks from last year, when other countries spend less time in a classroom than we do already, yet their education systems seem to manage fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I don't advocate increasing holidays...more the point that we keep hearing impossible to catch up the 'lost' weeks from last year, when other countries spend less time in a classroom than we do already, yet their education systems seem to manage fine.The real issue is the lateness of SQA in issuing assessments - we could have completed some of this months ago if they'd got their act together. When we do return it will be mainly assessment and finishing course content - with a relatively short time frame left to do this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 So I live in tier 4 Englandshire. Just had an email from the primary school. They were due to start back on Tuesday but just had an email saying that unless you are a "critical" worker (whatever that is) as opposed to key worker don't bring them back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The real issue is the lateness of SQA in issuing assessments - we could have completed some of this months ago if they'd got their act together. When we do return it will be mainly assessment and finishing course content - with a relatively short time frame left to do this. Absolutely. As you say 'if' the face to face return is early Feb, that leaves Feb, March and maybe the start of April to (realistically) piece together the evidence required for estimates, from Nat 5 to Advanced Higher. A decision on exams earlier in the year would have enabled schools to have enough evidence potentially built up by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 No communication or any idea what’s happening from work. Schools still off but parents not told either way what to do. We eventually shut last time but now some covid safety stuff is in place so no idea if we will open if lockdown is announced. If furlough money is there then with parents off we could go down to a skeleton staff, would be ok with that. Seems a bit unfair but what else can you do if both parents work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Looking at school (summer) holidays lengths in weeks across Europe.... Italy-14 weeks Spain-13 weeks Greece-13 weeks Finland 11 weeks Portugal-11 weeks Sweden-10 weeks Ireland-9 weeks Scotland-6 weeks (was cut to 5 this past year) So, if we take the upper numbers, Italian and Spanish pupils are on holiday for 7 or 8 weeks longer than in Scotland. (in the summer), The time for which schools used online learning between March and June was 13 weeks. Average holiday times in the rest of Europe at other times of the year are generally 2 weeks at Christmas, (same as Scotland), 2 weeks in Spring (same as Scotland), one week in autumn (generally the same as Scotland). In other words, Scotland still has among the shortest school holidays compared with Europe overall. https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-policies/eurydice/sites/eurydice/files/school_calendar_2018_19_final_report_0.pdf We are consistently told by governments that children have already missed too much school/education (over that 13 weeks between March-June, which equates to one term). Yet across Europe schools were also online in the March-June period, and then had their sometimes double summer holiday on top. Countries such as Finland and Sweden (with 5 weeks additional school holiday to Scotland) consistently outperform us. So,......is it still the case that educational standards would be unable to 'catch up' if schools moved online for an additional couple of weeks? when other countries with significantly shorter classroom terms don't seem to facing the same issues? I accept the fact that there remains a gap in IT provision for those with access to online learning and those without which is an important factor. (the SG said this would be addressed last summer....it hasn't been). The bold Italians taking 3 and half months off for summer. Fair play [emoji122] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 The bold Italians taking 3 and half months off for summer. Fair play [emoji122] Bloody lazy foreigners eh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Bloody lazy foreigners eh They'll have some mad ideas like longer school days or less holidays the rest of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Just as an aside, can there be justification in travelling from somewhere, say, Brora to Falkirk, while another group go from Cumbernauld to Huntly? No. You'd imagine the season will be shelved for clubs outside the top flight asap, or compulsory testing brought in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Looks like India are manufacturing 50m AZ vaccines a month with plans to ramp it up to 100m. Makes our production look really poor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 BBC reporting the Edinburgh Zoo pandas might get sent back because we can't afford the rent. You'd think the Chinese might have given us a few months free, all things considered. (Can't post a link) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, strichener said: Looks like India are manufacturing 50m AZ vaccines a month with plans to ramp it up to 100m. Makes our production look really poor. Apparently they have the biggest vaccine manufacturing plant in the world. Never mind, now that we've taken back control they might let us pay a premium to ship "our" vaccine in from abroad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: Apparently they have the biggest vaccine manufacturing plant in the world. Never mind, now that we've taken back control they might let us pay a premium to ship "our" vaccine in from abroad Don't we still rule them as part of our empire. We won't pay them, We'll just take it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneal Down Caster Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 The bold Italians taking 3 and half months off for summer. Fair play [emoji122] Are you related to wee Jonathan V.T 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, strichener said: Don't we still rule them as part of our empire. We won't pay them, We'll just take it. Exactly, rescind their independence! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.