Todd_is_God Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Thereisalight.. said: As an aside I don’t think we should be waiting for those in the 50-60 age group who are healthy to be vaccinated before easing restrictions I don't think we will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. Don’t stockpile until you get the difficult ones out the way. Get the stuff out there as fast as possible. If you get some over 60’s or 70’s done while you’re doing the 80’s and care homes in parallel you’re still increasing protection in the wider community. the seemingly sequential nature of the roll-out to me is negligent from a public health perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. I think pretty much that is exactly scenario ie care homes, house bound, working NHS staff etc. Hence the insistence they are still on target. Not sure what part of it some folk can't grasp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I take it that would mean it would need almost 7mill doses to have vaccinated these groups. Going to be a long old slog if only 16k are being done per day. As an aside I don’t think we should be waiting for those in the 50-60 age group who are healthy to be vaccinated before easing restrictions I'm between 50-60. I have no underlying health issues. My wife however is in the extremely vulnerable category. The last 10 months have been very stressful for me with the worry of taking the virus home to her. Once she gets vaccinated it will be a massive weight off my shoulders. However I completely agree that some restrictions should be lifted prior to vaccinating healthy people in my age group. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: 8 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. I think pretty much that is exactly scenario ie care homes, house bound, working NHS staff etc. Hence the insistence they are still on target. Not sure what part of it some folk can't grasp. We have a large number in stock. Why can't we do both at the same time? There is no logical reason behind completing care homes first before moving on to the programme proper. If we can do 400k per week from Monday, we should be doing more than 16k per day now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The virus would need to have a 99.9% fatality rate on the forum before you became the voice of authority on good posting.Nerve. Touched. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 We have a large number in stock. Why can't we do both at the same time? There is no logical reason behind completing care homes first before moving on to the programme proper. If we can do 400k per week from Monday, we should be doing more than 16k per day now. Why bother? This is over as a public health crisis. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) So, with a bit of eyeball mk.1 and the drawing tools in PowerPoint, I tried to work out some of the way points. I think to stick by the SG plan we need to be at 324,000 by 23rd January - in a weeks time. That translates to 16.5k per day between now and then - assuming weekend service. If you look at that graph they expect then about 5 days or so after that, the rate of vaccination to really take off: the gradient of the line just over doubles which by my probably faulty reckoning makes it around 36k/day which is then expected to continue into mid February which I think gives you 1.2 million by 21st February. So, basically the SG plan I think doesn't expect larger figures, generally until really, two weeks from now. Edited January 14, 2021 by renton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: We'll need a source for this. Until then it can be viewed as another excuse the simps unquestionably believe. Lucky for all of us that you've got the inside track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 We have a large number in stock. Why can't we do both at the same time? There is no logical reason behind completing care homes first before moving on to the programme proper. If we can do 400k per week from Monday, we should be doing more than 16k per day now. Your hearing voices again. 400k per week is the target from the End of February not next week BBC News - Covid in Scotland: Freeman targets 400,000 vaccinations every weekhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55648161 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Why bother? This is over as a public health crisis. What would we know....we are all "simps" after all Jeeso he is depressing.......continually looking for a negative slant to everything (I am sure he won't take offence to me saying that we are just "simps" so not to be listened to) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I don't think we will. I wouldn’t hold my breath. “Cautious” is the SG way and I can’t see them changing now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: You could match most of that nearly word for word with posts Todd made. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John MacLean Posted January 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Do people still consider Todd to be in any way credible? I came into this thread many, many months ago when he was listing the daily death/icu figures and 7 day averages as if they were the football results. Presumably to try and demonstrate that this wasn't now, hadn't been in the past and wouldn't be in the future a public health crisis. Every position he takes starts with his conclusion i.e. SNP/SG bad, and works back from that. Interpreting information to support whatever his pet narrative is on any given day. Remember his disparaging references, back when numbers were low, to anyone who even contemplated the possibility that the virus hadn't vanished as "second wavers"? Now he has progressed to referring to people who don't follow his, utterly inflexible, take on things as "simps". The arrogance of his assumption that he is right all the time is astounding. It's easier said than done, as this rant is evidence of, but his cod epidemiology is best ignored. He's nowhere close to being as clever as he thinks he is. Edited January 14, 2021 by John MacLean 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 14 days into 2021 and I’m already scunnered with it. Still no timeline for when we can start living again. Fearful headlines like the SG are worried the vaccine might not work against the “Brazilian variant”. My anxiety levels have been through the roof the last few days. It’s been nearly a year of “living” like this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, John MacLean said: Do people still consider Todd to be in any way credible? I don't think he's a bad lad as a poster. He's just scared and is over-compensating for that by convincing himself that he's got the inside track on nefarious cover-ups and conspiracies to keep people oppressed and at home. The reality is that politicians and health officials are struggling in the face of a very difficult situation that is very dangerous for lots of people. He just sees sinister acts and intentions where there are none. It's probably not all that unusual a reaction to a crisis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Worrying news from Barra. I well remember the footage of the camp beds in the town hal at the outset of this when we were instructed to stop visiting the islands. BBC News - Covid in Scotland: Rising cases on Isle of Barrahttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-55660777 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Scotgov claiming the R rate in Scotland is currently 1.4 is just complete bullshit. This is the 1st real thing in 9 months coming out of her mouth that has really annoyed me. Rates have clearly flattened and may actually be reducing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, John MacLean said: Do people still consider Todd to be in any way credible? I came into this thread many, many months ago when he was listing the daily death/icu figures and 7 day averages as if they were the football results. Presumably to try and demonstrate that this wasn't now, hadn't been in the past and wouldn't be in the future a public health crisis. Every position he takes starts with his conclusion i.e. SNP/SG bad, and works back from that. Interpreting information to support whatever his pet narrative is on any given day. Remember his disparaging references, back when numbers were low, to anyone who even contemplated the possibility that the virus hadn't vanished as "second wavers"? Now he has progressed to referring to people who don't follow his, utterly inflexible, take on things as "simps". The arrogance of his assumption that he is right all the time is astounding. It's easier said than done, as this rant is evidence of, but his cod epidemiology is best ignored. He's nowhere close to be as clever as he thinks he is. Tbf to Todd, there was a time when his input was well worth reading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, superbigal said: Scotgov claiming the R rate in Scotland is currently 1.4 is just complete bullshit. This is the 1st real thing in 9 months coming out of her mouth that has really annoyed me. Rates have clearly flattened and may actually be reducing. She also said it didn't take into account restrictions put in in the last two weeks. Think there is at least a week lag on the R number. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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