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21 minutes ago, 101 said:

Case fatality in Yemen is 30% and in the 10 countries with highest case fatality rates none of them have a majority White European population base.

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And all these countries are testing and diagnosing people in the same volume as every other country?

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looks like hotel quarantine or proper quarantine as i'd call it is coming,  big question - why now? who waits till we're almost the worst in the world before we stop folk coming in? the fucking useless tories that's who! let's just wait until no c**t actually wants to come here before we put in a costly protection system. a big well done to all involved!

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looks like hotel quarantine or proper quarantine as i'd call it is coming,  big question - why now?


Because the UK will go over 100,000 Covid deaths today, and mandatory quarantine for those arriving will overtake that milestone in the news pecking order.
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44 minutes ago, 101 said:

Case fatality in Yemen is 30% and in the 10 countries with highest case fatality rates none of them have a majority White European population base.

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It's a fact that bipoc in the US are much more heavily affected than white people - although there is argument as to whether that's poverty related rather than genetics. 

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1 hour ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

1. By who? Not, according to the BMJ, the manufacturers - and it would be a strange business who talked down thir product without good reason. 

2. Again - specialists who know more than those who actually developed the vaccines?

3. In a world where we don't trust a word that comes out of Moscow or Beijing, why do we treat every Israeli statement as Gospel? This is a country which won't admit having nuclear warheads..

4. I never said they did, but another cog in the same PR machine most certainly did. 

The manufacturers have carried out trials using certain time period between doses. They provide recommendations based on this. Vaccine specialists, such as those who sit on the JCVI, look at this, take the data from their trials and apply what we know about vaccines and about the virus to produce the schedule. Incidentally, other countries are also changing the schedule some to 12 weeks, some to six. Most of the serous questions raised about the change are based on scientists wanting access to data. The whole situation is rapidly changing so obviously could change.

The figures coming from Israel are based on testing carried out by the vaccine manufacturer. What reason is there for not believing them?  

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49 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

CFR will inherently be much higher than IFR if very little testing is taking place. Have a sneaking suspicion that Yemen doesn't feature very highly on the tests per capita table given it's in the midsts of a civil war right now. One of the main reasons for all the mass hysteria over COVID is that many people do not seem to grasp the difference between CFR and IFR, so when a 2% CFR number was being reported from Wuhan it was generally assumed to mean that 2% of everybody infected would die. We now know it is probably under 0.2% on IFR and very much skewed towards > 70 year olds placing it in unusually bad flu season sort of territory rather than a rerun of the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918.

True enough. And agree that any comparison between Spanish Flu which was influenza and Covid-19 which is a Coronavirus.

19 minutes ago, madwullie said:

It's a fact that bipoc in the US are much more heavily affected than white people - although there is argument as to whether that's poverty related rather than genetics. 

The initial point was about developing countries potentially having a more resistant population an argument on poverty Vs genetics is not a strong argument when a country has both issues.

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12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

They don't support the doom and gloom outlook.

how does it benefit the government to keep us locked down unnecessarily ? which is what you and others are suggesting. that the government push a negative agenda in order to justify restriction that are not required? why? they are paying for everything whilst everything is shut down

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"That's when the security guards arrives and started to forcibly remove him.

Mr Leigh shouted: "I'm an officer of the court. I'm putting you on notice, if you put one hand on me and touch me I'll be doing you for assault.""

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Get tae f**k!

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"That's when the security guards arrives and started to forcibly remove him.

Mr Leigh shouted: "I'm an officer of the court. I'm putting you on notice, if you put one hand on me and touch me I'll be doing you for assault.""

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Get tae f**k!




Watching the video is even worse. It’s like he’s convinced the person receiving treatment it’s not real.

The doctor definitely wanted to knock f**k out of him.
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19 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

how does it benefit the government to keep us locked down unnecessarily ? which is what you and others are suggesting. that the government push a negative agenda in order to justify restriction that are not required? why? they are paying for everything whilst everything is shut down

Politicians are terrified of being accused of callously allowing  lots of people to die so they play it ultra-safe and find ways to create a narrative in which subsequent infection waves are due to yobs not following their nanny state rules rather than new more readily transmissible variants messing with the R0 number until herd immunity is achieved again. A party that is generally perceived as having handled a pandemic badly could easily be in opposition for a generation or mess up that chance of an independence referendum they are completely obsessive about.

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12 minutes ago, mizfit said:

 

 


Watching the video is even worse. It’s like he’s convinced the person receiving treatment it’s not real.

The doctor definitely wanted to knock f**k out of him.

 

 

The guy is clearly a bellend and needed removed, but if someone in sound mind does not want to be treated I’m not sure if they should be forcibly kept in hospital.

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8 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

The guy is clearly a bellend and needed removed, but if someone in sound mind does not want to be treated I’m not sure if they should be forcibly kept in hospital.

Actually under the covid regulations someone who is positive for covid can be compelled to go to a place for treatment. The fact that his family are not isolating as well suggests it would be dangerous to let the person leave. 

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27 minutes ago, H Wragg said:

"That's when the security guards arrives and started to forcibly remove him.

Mr Leigh shouted: "I'm an officer of the court. I'm putting you on notice, if you put one hand on me and touch me I'll be doing you for assault.""

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looks like hotel quarantine or proper quarantine as i'd call it is coming,  big question - why now? who waits till we're almost the worst in the world before we stop folk coming in? the fucking useless tories that's who! let's just wait until no c**t actually wants to come here before we put in a costly protection system. a big well done to all involved!
And what's going to stop a Portuguese EU passport holder arriving in Portugal from Brazil taking a trip into Spain to fly to the UK thus avoiding hotel detention if Spain isn't on the list.

If it's all arrivals and this remains in place until the UK reaches at least 80% saturation with the vaccination program as Jeremy Hunt alluded to this morning we can forget any foreign travel before the Autumn at least.
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