Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[welshbairn]

5 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

Asking JTS to link me his primo stash of weird bootlicking images

We live in a capitalist world M8, and Gates has enough to last him thousands of lifetimes. I really don't think he's trying to make a few bob out of Covid, just passing on advice about making things happen quickly in the real world. As I said, playing devil's advocate.

[Todd_is_God]

11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Do we know that the increased percentage of younger people in hospital in Israel, or here for that matter, is solely due to vaccination or could it also be due to the new variant? 

I genuinely haven't seen anything about percentages here, so I'll pass on commenting on that.

But the figures in Israel are almost certainly down to a reduction in older people going in to hospital. Whether that is down to the vaccine alone is up for debate, but it looks to be an extremely key factor.

I'd be astonished if the maybe more transmissible but probably not; maybe more deadly but probably not UK variant was driving hospitalisations of younger people in Israel, though.

Edited January 24, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[vikingTON]

17 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

That’s exactly what he’s saying, as apparently a pandemic means you not only can but should do anything.

He is an utter clownshoes.

The history of pandemics is literally the history of human societies attempting anything to solve that problem. We have just created the worst economic downturn in 300 fucking years to 'do something' about it as well.

It is not too much of an ask to demand that health authorities push the needle in favour of applying established medications over ethical box-ticking exercises in this specific case then. 

Edited January 24, 2021 by vikingTON

[Wee Bully]

The history of pandemics is literally the history of human societies attempting anything to solve that problem. We have just created the worst economic downturn in 300 fucking years to 'do something' about it as well.
It is not too much of an ask to demand that health authorities push the needle in favour of applying established medications over ethical box-ticking exercises in this specific case then. 

Don’t worry.

You can go upstairs now and tell your mum that’s you’ve won the internet again.

[Left Back]

5 minutes ago, virginton said:

The history of pandemics is literally the history of human societies attempting anything to solve that problem. We have just created the worst economic downturn in 300 fucking years to 'do something' about it as well.

It is not too much of an ask to demand that health authorities push the needle in favour of applying established medications over ethical box-ticking exercises in this specific case then. 

You talk more pish than Neil Lennon.

[madwullie]

29 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Am I picking you up incorrectly, or are you using the increase in percentage of younger people in hospital in Israel (caused by a drop in older people due to extensive vaccinations) and applying that trend here to suggest that as we are not seeing an overall reduction in hospital numbers we must have more younger people in hospital than before?

Nah I was talking about the UK which (I thought) had been the earlier chat. My Hebrew is not up to standard for the Israeli data. 

Apologies if the earlier chat was also about Israel - if it was I didn't realise that at the time. 

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Nah I was talking about the UK which (I thought) had been the earlier chat. My Hebrew is not up to standard for the Israeli data. 

Apologies if the earlier chat was also about Israel - if it was I didn't realise that at the time. 

No need  we all want the same thing at the end of the day.

Edited January 24, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[vikingTON]

2 minutes ago, Left Back said:

You talk more pish than Neil Lennon.

 

2 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Don’t worry.

You can go upstairs now and tell your mum that’s you’ve won the internet again.

Devastated to receive criticism from such titan minds like yourselves. 

Get back in your box.

[madwullie]

2 hours ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

This is already happening. There was someone on radio Scotland this week saying exactly that, that a greater proportion of hospitalisations at present are in younger age groups than before. However there was no acknowledgement that this could be because there are less in the vaccinated groups being hospitalised which would naturally increase the percentage of younger people as part of the whole number, even if there was no/negligible increase in younger groups being hospitalised. Instead it was being played up as ‘everybody is at risk!’.

Just checked back. 

There are proportionately (according to whatever honest man heard) more younger people in hospital in the UK just now, while overall numbers have stayed the same. 

Tbh a couple of people in this thread and others I know in the nhs IRL anecdotally have said that's something they've noticed this time round. 

It's not a long term thing so hopefully just an outlier in the stats

Edited January 24, 2021 by madwullie

[s_dog]

4 hours ago, welshbairn said:

I'm pretty sure it was announced that Scotland were getting 20-25 ultra low temperature freezers like these ones. Each has room for 86,000 doses.

When the Pfizer vaccine was first given the go-ahead the Scot Gov stated "23 freezers will be sited in vaccine deployment centres in every national health service board area."

So mainly hospitals and other larger facilities, where they're currently being used for vaccinating NHS & care staff, or sent out to be used in health centres, GP practices and care homes. As we get more of the Oxford/AZ vaccine (at least in the short term, as longer term it's remains to be seen what will happen considering the EU delivery delays), and move into age groups that can go to the bigger vaccination hubs being set up alongside the likes of the Louisa Jordan, distribution will become less of an issue. 

[Bairnardo]

7 hours ago, tamthebam said:

No. People are commenting on problems in delivering the vaccine and I was asking what the logistics behind the delivery are out of curiousity.

It seemed pertinent to comment that Scotland's road infrastructure and topography is different from England, Wales and Northern Ireland as people were comparing the vaccine distribution efforts there to Scotland.

FWIW if Amazon, Tesco, Sainsbury's or whoever can get books or ham sandwiches to Thurso and Stornoway timeously perhaps they should be involved in vaccine distribution.

Tell you this, if "but Scotlands road network" ever gets a mentions in the daily deflection briefing, my fucking head will make the large hadron collider look like a childs toy as I replicate the conditions of the big bang in Larbert

[Aubrey Maturin]

2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Tell you this, if "but Scotlands road network" ever gets a mentions in the daily deflection briefing, my fucking head will make the large hadron collider look like a childs toy as I replicate the conditions of the big bang in Larbert

[Bairnardo]

2 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

Lizard a borderline wid there tbh

[philpy]

A guy I know along with his 2 sons, have all tested positive. Absolutely no sympathy for them though, as they never wear masks. 

[ICTChris]

 

 

[pandarilla]

What is the opinion in this thread that the 'scummier' elements of society seem to be much more likely to catch covid, due to them gemstone not giving a f**k about restrictions?

I hate the term underclass, and realise that so many of these problems are society's fault - but to deny it exists is just daft.

For me, it's a definite part of the problem. Not major part, but a part nonetheless.

[Bert Raccoon]

1 minute ago, philpy said:

A guy I know along with his 2 sons, have all tested positive. Absolutely no sympathy for them though, as they never wear masks. 

 

[mizfit]

That’s the girlfriend, her Grandad and her mother all received their first doses.

My grandad had a missed call from his doctors on Friday with a voicemail asking him to call to book in.

Light at the end of the tunnel. Glorious refreshing pints will be available this side of Summer if we’re lucky.

[philpy]

I'm more looking forward to being able to see my parents and family than I am to having a pint to be honest. I'll certainly not be going to packed pubs straight away anyway, everywhere will be a fucking nightmare.

[Ralstonite]

4 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

What is the opinion in this thread that the 'scummier' elements of society seem to be much more likely to catch covid, due to them gemstone not giving a f**k about restrictions?

I hate the term underclass, and realise that so many of these problems are society's fault - but to deny it exists is just daft.

For me, it's a definite part of the problem. Not major part, but a part nonetheless.

I agree that there's an underclass, to deny otherwise is folly. 

I live in a less than salubrious part of the West of Scotland. One thing I noticed early on when face masks were in short supply, was that all the junkies waiting for their methadone were wearing them. It was like they were sporting a fashion accessory, though about six of them had formed a tight circle and were chatting away with no regard for social distancing whatsoever, and most were not wearing their masks properly or had even removed them to aid conversation. Very bizarre.

I think statistically the underclass are more likely to smoke, drink heavily, take drugs, eat unhealthily and possibly indulge in many other risky behaviours. I can only conclude that they are more fatalistic or place less value on their lives.