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Just now, Steven W said:

When you consider the pathetic 300 crowds that Inverness, County and Elgin were allowed - Yes.

(Whats this 25% thing? I missed some of the details)

The number of grounds in Scotland that operate on around a 25% capacity in normal times would surprise you

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1 minute ago, Louis Litt said:

If Sturgeon does anything but follow (almost) suit and goes cautious then it's one less vote for the SNP this election. 

Over to you, Nic

That’ll show them

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1 minute ago, bairn88 said:

The number of grounds in Scotland that operate on around a 25% capacity in normal times would surprise you

Not Falkirk though.  90% most weeks is it?

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23 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

All over by June, Nightclubs all measures and foreign holidays, the full bhuna. This is "all over by Easter / November / Christmas" all over again despite the protestations that he wouldn't make the same mistakes again. That's just pie in the sky bonkers stuff. Nightclubs open when barely a soul packed inside is going to be vaccinated ?

Take it some one sold Simon Calder a dummy ?

I'll get my flights booked for Wembley and buy my Royal Ascot tickets tonight. Looking forward to Lanzarote in July too.

Grab a granny here we come. 

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Tomorrow will be very interesting depending on what NS lays out for Scotland.  She did suggest this afternoon that she had been briefed on Johnson's plans and that ours were broadly similar.  I don't want to get my hopes up, I suspect she'll still push for "zero covid", so I expect it will largely be the same things but on a much more spread out scale.  

What I do think will happen though, on the back of today's news, is that impact of vaccinations will kick in throughout the easing.  As many have said, if Sturgeon is true to her word she should be sticking to the data as a guide and not being influenced by advisers who may be pouting that their advice is being ignored.  If, and that's a big if, she does this then we should be matching England's loosening of restrictions. 

The fact that Johnson has ruled out zero-covid means that we won't be able to achieve it, for exactly the same reason that Micheál Martin and Leo Varadkar ruled it out in Ireland.  NS didn't want to forcibly close the border last summer and I doubt she would have anywhere near the same justification to do so this time round, if the vaccines continue to work as they are showing that they are.  Whether Leitch, Sridhar or even Sturgeon like it or not, it's no longer a viable option.

 

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It’s unfortunately lose-lose for Nicola tomorrow. 
If she follows the big bumbling posh daft lad who I wouldn’t trust with a pair of scissors....and it doesn’t work out then she wasn’t strict enough.

If she doesn’t match it or ease restrictions quicker then it’s her holding us back. 
A truly unenviable position for her. 

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1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:

So no foreign holidays until we've offered everyone the vaccine.

That's pretty much what people on here have been suggesting might / should be the case.

Maybe people should be able to travel before then if they have been vaccinated / quarantine on return. But they are going to wait a bit to see more real world results before making that decision i'd say.

I think it's more about public attitudes than safety. 

Pensioners swanning off abroad while key workers are stuck in the UK isn't going to go down well. There would be no chance of compliance on future emergency lockdowns if that had happened. 

It would also create a fairly unpleasant scramble for the vaccine. 

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17 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
22 minutes ago, Elixir said:
Another beat down from BoZo and one of his (old) backbenchers towards the #ZeroCovid headcases. PowttJS.gif&key=86b1df2ddb116b2c7bcfc4f72b4c17413dea86721a87dd9716a14eac32705031
Seeing more realism and pragmatism from the party I have hated all my life, compared with the party I have supported all my life, is troubling to say the least - and depressing in equal measure.

Bar an admission ZC is impossible there was nothing else remotely realistic in a word the buffoon said. Do you really think those dates are at all achievable ?

If you remove the obsession with getting cases as low as possible, then yes, tbh.

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