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10 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said:

The sun is out..... it means more shoppers. Had someone raging because online said we had a 32 inch TV but sadly it hadn't been delivered yet. He even took his mask off to have a little rage... was very amusing tbh 

32 inch? What peasant wants one that size?

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4 minutes ago, Rugster said:

32 inch? What peasant wants one that size?

I mind the first widescreen telly we ever got - a Sony Bravia 28 inch.

Absolutely massive for it's day and it weighed a ton.

I wouldn't even entertain a 32 inch as a portable these days.

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31 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
33 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
Fomite transmission isn't a thing. Why was the slide closed?

Because fomite transmission not being a thing has had absolutely no coverage whatsoever. Again, perhaps it's to try and retain good practices, but it shouldn't be driving policy, and to some extent, it must be.

There must surely come a time, though, where the obsession with the need to disinfect multi person touch points almost after each use needs to end?

There is a difference between good hygiene practices and Sheldon Cooper.

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1 hour ago, madwullie said:

Agree with the first part, but lifting restrictions is different. It would be pretty irresponsible to base that decision on other countries imo anyway. And whether imo or not, I don't think there's (m)any(?) govts who would make that decision based on what's happening elsewhere. 

Why would it be 'irresponsible' to base the end of a lockdown that is being driven by vaccination on the already established facts about how vaccination is smashing the epidemic? What other basis should the government use for its roadmap and to allow businesses time to prepare and adjust?

If your answer involves 'the models' that Neil Ferguson and the gang churn out and have been proven wrong every single time then please just auto-file it in the bin where it belongs.

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24 minutes ago, addicksion said:

Based on the figures on vaccine supply in the withdrawn vaccine deployment plan we should now have 1.7 million doses, so with nearly 1.5 million doses adtually given it seems that the supply is as expected

 

No no, the recent reduction in supply was unexpected. Which must be true as the SG would never be dishonest or misleading.

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3 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Time for a wee optimistic prediction -

Looking forward to seeing this gif by the end of this year after all working age adults have been vaccinated and herd immunity achieved in the under 16 age groups, the covid-19 virus suddenly and confusingly for all those controlling the fear factory vanishes.....or does it.

Image result for gone vanished gif

Not zero covid, just variants itself into irrelevance.

"Experts confused by disappearance of Covid-19" headlines everywhere.

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38 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

I mind the first widescreen telly we ever got - a Sony Bravia 28 inch.

Absolutely massive for it's day and it weighed a ton.

I wouldn't even entertain a 32 inch as a portable these days.

I mind sitting around a 14" portable playing 4-player GoldenEye with my mates. Sometimes if one of our sets of parents were out we'd take it into one of our living rooms where we had a mix of 21", 24" and 28". Halcyon days.

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On 20/02/2021 at 15:17, superbigal said:

 

Daily Update:  Another 24 hours of rising cases. Only flip side is another fall in positivity towards the magic 5% marker. Those at the top of the table do not hold that profile unfortunately.

Inverclyde the most deprived area in Scotland showing up many more affluent council areas down at 55.3 cases per 100K with only 2.7% positivity.

Falkirk (Excepting prison outbreaks) topping the charts with no excuses bar manky workforces. West Lothian & East Ayrshire may well leave Falkirk adrift when their grotty Screws and Lags fall of the charts. Looking at the large gap from Stirling you would expect the top 8 not to get any concessions bar Schools on Tuesday. In fact the next 5 councils are also all still over 100 cases per 100K.  I wonder if they will use this as some sort of marker this time around. All areas under 100 are also well under the 5% marker.

If the good people up the North East coast from Dundee northwards (All 52.5 or lower cases per 100K) do not get some outdoor concessions then who will ?

 

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan,    Cases that day were 16,496 and test rate was 11.9%

Total cases latest 7 days are 5,661 to 5,700 up 39, and the positive test goes from 5.2% to 5.1%  Cases per 100k rises from 103.6 to 104.3

England 133.4 to 131.1 in last 24 hours.  Wales  87.7 to 86.4  in last 24 hours , Northern Ireland 111.8 to 112.6 in last 24 hours.   UK Average is now 128.1 to 126.1 in last 24 hours.

Council progress in last 24 hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

West Lothian   211.4 to 226..7  9.6% Positivity

Falkirk  231.8 to 221.3  7.5% Positivity

East Ayrshire  224.6 to 207.4  8.8% Positivity.

Clackmannanshire   215.4 to 201.8  7.0% Positivity  

West Dunbartonshire  200.2 to 195.7  7.3% Positivity

North Lanarkshire   167.9 to 171.7  8.2% Positivity 

Renfrewshire  164.7 to 160.2

Stirling  156.0 to 153.9  

LARGE GAP

Glasgow City  129.2 to 130.5 

South Lanarkshire  131.0 to 130.4

North Ayrshire  119.5 to 122.5  

East Renfrewshire   121.4 to 120.4

Midlothian  108.2 to 109.2

LARGE GAP

City Of Edinburgh  79.2  to 83.4 

East Lothian  73.8 to 79.4

East Dunbartonshire 67.2 to 72.7

Moray  64.7 to 71.0  

Fife  67.7  to 70.9

Western Isles 89.8 to 63.6

South Ayrshire 59.5 to 59.5

Dumfries & Galloway 53.7 to 56.4 

Inverclyde  59.1 to 55.3  Another great day for Scotland's most deprived council area. 

Perth & Kinross   61.9 to 54.0 

Angus 55.1 to 52.5 

Highlands  49.2 to 51.7 

Dundee City   53.6 to 50.9  

Argyll & Bute  43.1 to 44.3

Scottish  Borders 27.7 to 37.2  

Aberdeenshire  35.1 to 34.8

Aberdeen City 30.2 to 30.6

Orkney Island   9.0 to 4.5

Shetland Islands   0.0 to 0.0

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What is the point of a levels system, based primarily on cases, if cases nationally are rising whilst in lockdown?

Either cases is the wrong metric, or lockdowns are completely ineffective.

Ease lockdowns based on local area population vaccination percentages.

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Daily Update:  Another 24 hours of rising cases. Only flip side is another fall in positivity towards the magic 5% marker. Those at the top of the table do not hold that profile unfortunately.

Inverclyde the most deprived area in Scotland showing up many more affluent council areas down at 55.3 cases per 100K with only 2.7% positivity.

Falkirk topping the charts with no excuses bar manky workforces. West Lothian & East Ayrshire may well leave Falkirk adrift when their grotty Screws and Lags fall of the charts. Looking at the large gap from Stirling you would expect the top 8 not to get any concessions bar Schools on Tuesday. In fact the next 5 councils are also all still over 100 cases per 100K.  I wonder if they will use this as some sort of marker this time around. All areas under 100 are also well under the 5% marker.

If the good people up the North East coast from Dundee northwards (All 52.5 or lower cases per 100K) do not get some outdoor concessions then who will ?

 

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan,    Cases that day were 16,496 and test rate was 11.9%

Total cases latest 7 days are 5,661 to 5,700 up 39, and the positive test goes from 5.2% to 5.1%  Cases per 100k rises from 103.6 to 104.3

England 133.4 to 131.1 in last 24 hours.  Wales  87.7 to 86.4  in last 24 hours , Northern Ireland 111.8 to 112.6 in last 24 hours.   UK Average is now 128.1 to 126.1 in last 24 hours.

Council progress in last 24 hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview
Falkirk  231.8 to 221.3  7.5% Positivity
West Lothian   211.4 to 226..7  9.6% Positivity
East Ayrshire  224.6 to 207.4  8.8% Positivity.
Clackmannanshire   215.4 to 201.8  7.0% Positivity  
West Dunbartonshire  200.2 to 195.7  7.3% Positivity
North Lanarkshire   167.9 to 171.7  8.2% Positivity 
Renfrewshire  164.7 to 160.2
Stirling  156.0 to 153.9  
LARGE GAP
Glasgow City  129.2 to 130.5 
South Lanarkshire  131.0 to 130.4
North Ayrshire  119.5 to 122.5  
East Renfrewshire   121.4 to 120.4
Midlothian  108.2 to 109.2
LARGE GAP
City Of Edinburgh  79.2  to 83.4 
East Lothian  73.8 to 79.4
East Dunbartonshire 67.2 to 72.7
Moray  64.7 to 71.0  
Fife  67.7  to 70.9
Western Isles 89.8 to 63.6
South Ayrshire 59.5 to 59.5
Dumfries & Galloway 53.7 to 56.4 
Inverclyde  59.1 to 55.3  Another great day for Scotland's most deprived council area. 
Perth & Kinross   61.9 to 54.0 
Angus 55.1 to 52.5 
Highlands  49.2 to 51.7 
Dundee City   53.6 to 50.9  
Argyll & Bute  43.1 to 44.3
Scottish  Borders 27.7 to 37.2  
Aberdeenshire  35.1 to 34.8
Aberdeen City 30.2 to 30.6
Orkney Island   9.0 to 4.5
Shetland Islands   0.0 to 0.0

Excuse me sir, i think you’ll find West Lothian should have the top spot
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51 minutes ago, virginton said:

Why would it be 'irresponsible' to base the end of a lockdown that is being driven by vaccination on the already established facts about how vaccination is smashing the epidemic? What other basis should the government use for its roadmap and to allow businesses time to prepare and adjust?

If your answer involves 'the models' that Neil Ferguson and the gang churn out and have been proven wrong every single time then please just auto-file it in the bin where it belongs.

You think we should end restrictions based on data from israel who are using different vaccines and a different dosing regimen? 

Fair enough, but I don't think you're going to get what you want. 

Best we're getting is to open up based on the data we gather from our vaccinations and what happens in our hospitals and icus over the next few months. 

Unsure what Ferguson has to do with any of this.

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2 minutes ago, madwullie said:

You think we should end restrictions based on data from israel who are using different vaccines and a different dosing regimen? 

Fair enough, but I don't think you're going to get what you want. 

Best we're getting is to open up based on the data we gather from our vaccinations and what happens in our hospitals and icus over the next few months. 

Unsure what Ferguson has to do with any of this.

Have the Israeli's not also been giving two doses

We have done one to date

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10 minutes ago, Binos said:

Have the Israeli's not also been giving two doses

We have done one to date

We're staggering 12 weeks to get round everyone, Israel gave the second dose in line with the trial data AFAIK (within 3 weeks?) 

That's not to say that our approach isn't sensible, but it's yet another variable that means our govt won't be happy using the Israeli data to manage our lockdown. They'll use our data as it becomes available - and it's looking good so far

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25 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:


Excuse me sir, i think you’ll find West Lothian should have the top spot

had a shocker

On reflection why is Burnieman so quiet ?

His neck of the woods this shitshow.

Blackburn may be stuck on the bottom of the EOS Premier league but in scintillating form catching Covid

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