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One of the things i heard at the weekend which was interesting was a Premier League manager (might have been Chris Wilder) saying that although they're able to train and play the biggest loss (other than the fans)  that he feels has impacted this season is that the players are not allowed to do any socialising/ team bonding and as a result they're not as much of a 'team' this year and more of a group of players that turn up separately, train differently and play games when needed. Could be an excuse but some teams do use the team bond/ all in this together sort of driver to help them compete if they're not quite at the same level technically and i wonder if this is the reason some teams seem to have more dramatic ups and downs than normal throughout the season?

Hopefully things will be back to normal for the new season.

 

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Zero Covid is, of course, admirable but it's wholly unrealistic now. Stable door, horse bolted etc. Maybe a year ago it could have been possible but that's gone now and it's just not realistic anymore. Which seems to be what Whitty is saying.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/mar/09/uk-covid-live-news-coronavirus-nhs-staff-pay-rise-vaccine-latest-updates?page=with:block-60475b608f08168521f606e8#block-60475b608f08168521f606e8

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One of the things i heard at the weekend which was interesting was a Premier League manager (might have been Chris Wilder) saying that although they're able to train and play the biggest loss (other than the fans)  that he feels has impacted this season is that the players are not allowed to do any socialising/ team bonding and as a result they're not as much of a 'team' this year and more of a group of players that turn up separately, train differently and play games when needed. Could be an excuse but some teams do use the team bond/ all in this together sort of driver to help them compete if they're not quite at the same level technically and i wonder if this is the reason some teams seem to have more dramatic ups and downs than normal throughout the season?
Hopefully things will be back to normal for the new season.
 

Possibly.

Celtic got a real boost by going drinking together in Dubai, and it led to a big uptick in their performances.

Oh, wait...
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3 minutes ago, EdinburghPar1975 said:

One of the things i heard at the weekend which was interesting was a Premier League manager (might have been Chris Wilder) saying that although they're able to train and play the biggest loss (other than the fans)  that he feels has impacted this season is that the players are not allowed to do any socialising/ team bonding and as a result they're not as much of a 'team' this year and more of a group of players that turn up separately, train differently and play games when needed. Could be an excuse but some teams do use the team bond/ all in this together sort of driver to help them compete if they're not quite at the same level technically and i wonder if this is the reason some teams seem to have more dramatic ups and downs than normal throughout the season?

Hopefully things will be back to normal for the new season.

 

That's definitely the reason why Morton are stinking the place out, and not because our ginger tit manager spent the summer hoarding every non-goalscoring sand-dancer in Scottish football. Best to null and void the league then until teams can bevvy again. 

Chris Wilder meanwhile should be looking at the likes of their flapping mess of a goalkeeper and Rhian Brewster that they spent £50 million of real, actual money on this summer, as the main reasons why they're getting relegated. 

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2 minutes ago, RiG said:

Zero Covid is, of course, admirable but it's wholly unrealistic now. Stable door, horse bolted etc. Maybe a year ago it could have been possible but that's gone now and it's just not realistic anymore. Which seems to be what Whitty is saying.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/mar/09/uk-covid-live-news-coronavirus-nhs-staff-pay-rise-vaccine-latest-updates?page=with:block-60475b608f08168521f606e8#block-60475b608f08168521f606e8

Some of the questions there are terrible.

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Anecdotally everyone I know who has had the AZ one has reported feeling shite during the first 48 hours ranging from chills, pains, nausea to absolute fatigue. This is across an age range from 29 to 86 and about 5 folk (not including those on here) .

The Pfizer one has produced a few sore arms around the injection site but nothing more and nothing longer than 24 hours. This is from an age range of 32 to 63 and only 3 folk (not including here).



Yep, anecdotally that's what I'd heard too.
I had all of those happen at some point during the 48 hours but the peak was from 12-18 hours post-vaccine: weakness, uncontrollable shivering, awful vomiting, fever, barely energy to get across my bathroom floor. I'm not even sure why I got a vaccine because I'm not in the current age, vulnerability, or occupation bracket (in England).
Suppose reactions are going to happen for people, I was just really surprised at how severe mine felt compared to what I'd heard and read.
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25 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

 

 

The replies saying "cAlL it NeW zEaLaNd" are staggering.

Do they know what NZ's strategy is. That being vaccinate > bin restrictions > move on.

The UK is following the NZ model. We just need tighter restrictions whilst we roll out the vaccine as we currently have much higher prevelance.

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1 hour ago, TheScarf said:

I may have imagined reading this, and of course I'm the furthest from an expert on the matter (or on here) as you'l probably find, but did I read that the virus has or produces a protein that the vaccines target?  And the protein is the one constant that doesn't change so of course the vaccines are going to get all the variants to f**k?

As in they target the 'epicentre' of the virus makeup, so a little variance in the virus won't matter?

I'm probably talking utter shite, and not for the first time amirite guys?

Pretty much, yes.

It will take a different virus to evade the vaccine, not a mutation.

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2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

I assume when Wittey and Vallance are out talking of surge in infections, cant speed up the reopening etc that they feel Bozo might be contemplating it against their advice ?

I don't think so. More likely just getting ahead of the calls for it as hospitalisations etc fall through the floor.

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Bit contradictory to some of the other replies, but I have had COVID and for the Pfizer jag and had an awful time of it the following day. 
 

Headache, nausea etc. I’m also used to getting a dead arm following the flu jag etc but this was something else entirely. My arm felt like it had a 20kg weight strapped to it. 

1 hour ago, Jeff Venom said:

Jumping back in here having not trawled through the last few weeks of this thread, but has anyone who has had the virus on here also had a vaccination?
If so, how did it go?
I received my first dose last Monday (the AZ one) and had a hellish reaction to it

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10 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

f**k me how many more times are the BBC going to regurgitate this same story.

BBC News - Covid in Scotland: Tighter rules will be used to decide on levels
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56237471

Is it next Tuesday NS is outlining what the new tiers will actually look like?

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By the end of April, the priority groups will all have been vaccinated.

At that point we need to ditch all the panic about 'infection rates' and concentrate on hospitalisation rates and deaths which will surely be tiny by then.  We can't allow lockdown to continue to weeks and months more just because younger healthy (often asymptomatic) age groups are catching Covid.  

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f**k me how many more times are the BBC going to regurgitate this same story.

BBC News - Covid in Scotland: Tighter rules will be used to decide on levels
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56237471
I read that earlier and thought I was experiencing deja vu.

I still don't find it any less baffling right enough as to why the levels have been made tighter than they were previously.
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14 hours ago, Gaz said:

In what must come as a surprise to *checks notes* absolutely no-one, the PM has acknowledged that reopening all schools will have such an impact on infection levels that the route out of lockdown might have to be altered.

Would have to check my work emails but I think Gavin Williamson also said that they won't row back on the schools reopening so if there's an uptick in infection levels then that's unfortunate but that's the way it has to be.

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