Dawson Park Boy Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, Bairnardo said: So the vaccines work for a year, and counting, they smoke the variants, most of the cases are in the age ranges who are currently taking up the vaccines, and further immunity will be gained by however many (it might not be high but its more than the zero anyone previously accounted for) 12 to 15 year olds get it... Im genuinely at a loss why they dont incentivise the vaccines by saying, if vaccine uptake remains high, then this is fucking over in weeks. Not this mewling, patronising, "we're not giving in" pish I hear on the radio, just give it straight. Every restriction gone as long as folk turn up. Thats the target, thats the only reason anyone below 40 is bothering. For probably the only time in my life I actually agree with you. Surely we should now be vaccinating 24/7? I know trained vaccinators who are not being fully utilised. Its so obvious! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I'm hoping for the travel restrictions being completely lifted at some point this year. I haven't seen my dad in person for nearly 2 years now with him living in SEA and the quarantine rules right now mean it's not a feasible trip for either of us. It's been far too long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I often wonder how “the guys” haven’t noticed this/decide to ignore the clear data. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, GiGi said: I'm hoping for the travel restrictions being completely lifted at some point this year. I haven't seen my dad in person for nearly 2 years now with him living in SEA and the quarantine rules right now mean it's not a feasible trip for either of us. It's been far too long. I'm hoping the autumn might be OK for travelling. Missus hasn't seen her family since 2019. Wants to see them but not with quarantine at either end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, superbigal said: I assume you are not the resident DJ in Joannas ? Only on Saturday afternoon. 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Time for a revolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: Talking to the wife and she is really worried. I started talking to her about how the vaccines are working and all that but she shut me down. She isn't scared of the virus, or of getting ill. But she is terrified of another lockdown. She thinks that is another one is announced in the near future she might not be able to cope. I wonder how widespread this view is - totally understandable. Totally understand where she's coming from. In the obsession with Covid, data, protect at all costs, those in charge seem to have forgotten that they're dealing with actual human beings, who have physical and mental health needs beyond Covid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Detournement said: ...Covid turning up randomly right outside the lab where they do experiments making Corona viruses more dangerous is a bit of a stretch... Bat soup was alleged to be a local culinary delicacy but that's subsequently been called into serious question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Bat soup was alleged to be a local culinary delicacy but that's subsequently been called into serious question. The market theory is highly improbable. Me winning the Euromillions levels of unlikely. A deadly virus getting out a lab where they create deadly viruses is highly likely unless they follow safety precautions stringently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I think the "variant" pish is the same as with the threat of vaccine passports. It has to be about scaring people into having both vaccines. This is kind of back firing though as younger folk aren't seeing any benifit from getting vaccinated as no one is getting to do anything different whether you have been jagged or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Hospital figures mean nothing unless we get a split of who is recieving treatment for symptoms of the virus and who isn't. The body that debunked Humza Youssef made it clear that the increase in children in hospital with Covid hasn't resulted in a rise in children being treated FOR Covid. We need the same information for other age groups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 They won't try another lockdown the public have done their time they are now dosed up and the NHS has been saved. It will be ignored if they try it.I totally agree with ignoring another lockdown but the problem remains for small businesses, hospitality trade and the like who would no doubt be the same easy targets for closing and short of going through the courts have little chance of changing the thought processes of Professor Doom and his pals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I totally agree with ignoring another lockdown the problem remains for small businesses, hospitality trade and the like who would no doubt be the same easy targets for closing and short of going through the courts have little chance of changing the thought processes of Professor Doom and his pals. The process should follow that which seen the English courts bin curfews. Demonstrate, using evidence, what gain in terms of virus suppression there is from closing this business/sector, and the consequences in human terms, using evidence, of failure to do so. Reacting by shutting shit down is a panic button move which was appropriate just over a year ago. It certainly isnt now. Targeting individual sectors is a total nonsense and the ones which remain in the crosshairs of Scotgov speak volumes about their attitude to certain social activities and the people who partake in them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 The process should follow that which seen the English courts bin curfews. Demonstrate, using evidence, what gain in terms of virus suppression there is from closing this business/sector, and the consequences in human terms, using evidence, of failure to do so. Reacting by shutting shit down is a panic button move which was appropriate just over a year ago. It certainly isnt now. Targeting individual sectors is a total nonsense and the ones which remain in the crosshairs of Scotgov speak volumes about their attitude to certain social activities and the people who partake in them. I had some correspondence with my MSP at the back end of last year at a time when gyms were closed and fast foot outlets remained open. I suggested that given the known links between obesity and hospitalisations that the roles should be reversed but apparently some people have to access to fast food. I am quite partial to a take away myself but from a public health measure the restrictions imposed make little sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 More 'Long Covid' fucking drivel. Quote Posted at 10:15 One million report long Covid symptoms Copyright: Getty Images An estimated one million people in private households in the UK reported experiencing "long Covid" in the four weeks to 2 May, according to new figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS). Of these people, an estimated 869,000 first had Covid-19 - or suspected they had Covid-19 - at least 12 weeks previously while 376,000 first had the virus or suspected they had the virus at least one year ago. Long Covid was estimated to be adversely affecting the day-to-day activities of 650,000 people, with 192,000 reporting that their ability to undertake day-to-day activities had been limited a lot. Fatigue was the most common symptom reported as part of individuals' experience of long Covid (547,000 people), followed by shortness of breath (405,000), muscle ache (313,000), and difficulty concentrating (285,000). We've got more on long Covid here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Elixir said: More 'Long Covid' fucking drivel. The issue with studies like this is 1. There’s no evidence many of these ‘long covid sufferers’ ever actually had covid and 2. Even if they did, there’s no evidence these symptoms are actually caused by covid as there was no control group. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said: The issue with studies like this is 1. There’s no evidence many of these ‘long covid sufferers’ ever actually had covid and 2. Even if they did, there’s no evidence these symptoms are actually caused by covid as there was no control group. Self-reported symptoms including fatigue, muscle ache, and difficulty concentrating. Absolutely hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I see today's ONS weekly report has new infections rising much more steeply in England and Wales than in Scotland which is a surprise given the rises here.Why all the talk of new lockdowns all of a sudden ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Elixir said: Self-reported symptoms including fatigue, muscle ache, and difficulty concentrating. Absolutely hilarious. You can quite literally get these symptoms from sitting on your hole in a bad home office setup each day, with no big bad virus required. The vast majority of these people of these people are without doubt malingerers, still fuming that their key worker gold stars were lost in the post last year. Edited June 4, 2021 by vikingTON 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I see today's ONS weekly report has new infections rising much more steeply in England and Wales than in Scotland which is a surprise given the rises here. Why all the talk of new lockdowns all of a sudden ? Knicker wetting I'd assume but in fairness I've not read right through the thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: Hospitalisations and deaths are rising amongst doubly vaccinated people in direct correlation with cases rising? Are they? Where are you getting those numbers? Out of his arse? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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