HTG Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: The Simpsons (early series at least) is the greatest social commentary ever put on TV so just embrace it, you’ve tried nothing and you’re all out of ideas. Absolutely. Others for our time include: You tried your best and failed. The lesson is, never try. And If something's hard to do, it's not worth doing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Red Dot. 6 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Green Dot. Thanks for the update. Can you put these in a spreadsheet plz? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Whether you agree with BJ or not, it's basically "herd immunity" he's going for by opening everything up and "taking the hit",as it were, in the Summer when the hospitals are quiet as opposed to putting off the inevitable and taking the hit from the next wave over the winter. Some will be furious and say that we need 100% (or as near as possible) vaccination first or that it's still "too soon", but he does have a point when he says life must go on as otherwise this will be us for the rest of eternity or until the virus burns itself out / vanishes. The bottom line is that we need the economy to be working and people need to "live" and have something to look forward to, otherwise it's just like a life sentence where we're all just existing as opposed to actually living, and that's no good for anyone !!!! Yup. The fact the UK is facing an exit wave, despite how much immunity there is in the population, shows that all these places in East Asia and Oceania are inevitably going to take a big hit eventually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Left Back said: So with this testing to not have to isolate is there not a flaw in it that the virus has an incubation period. Won't a whole bunch of people be getting tested (and presumably show as negative) before the incubation period is up but subsequently go on to get the virus? If they 'get the virus' and are symptomatic then they should self-isolate from then, get another PCR test and wait out the appropriate isolation period. I fail to see why we're imposing so much utter chaos regarding mandatory isolation of all back of a fag packet 'close contacts', to try (and evidently fail anyway) to prevent asymptomatic spread. The vulnerable are now fully vaccinated and asymptomatic people are themselves not a burden on the NHS at all, so the underlying logic for this measure is greatly reduced. Compared to the costs imposed on society it would be better to switch to testing people with symptoms only and using proper tests/symptom monitoring to deal with contacts. Edited July 7, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 3,799 new cases of COVID-19 reported 40,842 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results 10.0% of these were positive 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 34 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 32) 387 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 346) 3,890,176 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,808,902 have received their second dose Edited July 7, 2021 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 That has the hallmarks of a backlog tbh. Wonder if it'll be the same across the UK when the figures are published. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, virginton said: If they 'get the virus' and are symptomatic then they should self-isolate from then, get another PCR test and wait out the appropriate isolation period. I fail to see why we're imposing so much utter chaos regarding mandatory isolation of all back of a fag packet 'close contacts', to try (and evidently fail anyway) to prevent asymptomatic spread. The vulnerable are now fully vaccinated and asymptomatic people are themselves not a burden on the NHS at all, so the underlying logic for this measure is greatly reduced. Compared to the costs imposed on society it would be better to switch to testing people with symptoms only and using proper tests/symptom monitoring to deal with contacts. I was thinking about people who test negative but develop asymptomatic covid happily wandering round potentially infecting others. It seems a blind spot to me and testing close contacts to allow them to come out of isolation may not be as effective at limiting transmission as it first seems. At then end of the day I'm sure the experts would have factored this in and deemed it an acceptable risk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Michael W said: That has the hallmarks of a backlog tbh. Wonder if it'll be the same across the UK when the figures are published. I hope you are correct but there's an element of folk seeing what they want to see in these figures. Quite a few comments yesterday that the case numbers being down was a clear positive despite the positivity being largely the same. There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. The rising hospital numbers and the recent very small increase in deaths is clearly a concern but again we need the context of comparison to the numbers from January when very few were vaccinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 It is still a drop on last weeks figures. Remember we’ve been told 1 in 3 are asymptotic. We’re definitely seeing a lot of them being picked up in these figures with LFT’s being pushed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Left Back said: I was thinking about people who test negative but develop asymptomatic covid happily wandering round potentially infecting others. It seems a blind spot to me and testing close contacts to allow them to come out of isolation may not be as effective at limiting transmission as it first seems. At then end of the day I'm sure the experts would have factored this in and deemed it an acceptable risk. Asymptomatic spread is pretty unusual. Pre-symptomatic spread far more common. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: I hope you are correct but there's an element of folk seeing what they want to see in these figures. Quite a few comments yesterday that the case numbers being down was a clear positive despite the positivity being largely the same. There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. The rising hospital numbers and the recent very small increase in deaths is clearly a concern but again we need the context of comparison to the numbers from January when very few were vaccinated. It'sa massive increase on what had been a significant drop off in the last couple of days. Maybe coincidental, but the number of cases must now be starting to affect reporting a bit. More worrying is the hospital number there as that's a big increase in a day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I hope you are correct but there's an element of folk seeing what they want to see in these figures. Quite a few comments yesterday that the case numbers being down was a clear positive despite the positivity being largely the same. There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. The rising hospital numbers and the recent very small increase in deaths is clearly a concern but again we need the context of comparison to the numbers from January when very few were vaccinated.Tbf it’s better to do a 7 day comparison on cases. This figure is lower than last Wednesday’s numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) Daily Cases Update: Day1 of dropping cases. Down a fraction 0.13% to 424.5 per 100K. Infectivity also drops for 1st time in forever. Good news is I predict a further larger 6% drop tomorrow. We have just had a large number (3799) reported for yesterday, but even that should ensure a 3rd day of falls albeit another very small one when I update on Friday. Even Dundee may have peaked !!!!! Whitfield at 1607.1 still Scotland's no go area. Hardly anyone double vaccinated as the Grannies are all about 33 years old. New European figures today. Scotland 424.5, England 239.3, Portugal 109.3 to 118.0, Northern Ireland 123.6, Wales 110.7, Russia 97.8 to 100.0, Spain 76.3 to 92.9, at other end we have Poland 1.9 to 1.8, Germany 5.1 to 5.0, Italy 7.4 to 7.5, Czech 9.0 to 8.5, Switzerland 8.4 to 9.0, Sweden 14.2 to 16.0 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139048/coronavirus-case-rates-in-the-past-7-days-in-europe-by-country/ Scotland peaks (Hopefully) at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8% Scotland previously peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Total Cases 7 days from 28th June to 4th July were 23,222 now 23,191 down 0.13%. Positivity was 10.8% now 10.7%. Cases per 100k were 425.1 now 424.5 Home Nations Daily update : UK Average 229.9 to 244.3 up 6.26%, England 223.8 to 239.3 up 6.93%, Wales 103.2 to 110.7 up 7.27%, Northern Ireland 112.9 to 123.6 up 9.48% Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview LEVEL 2 RED Dundee City 914.1 to 903.4 1st drop in weeks. May have peaked ? Midlothian 761.4 to 736.5 East Lothian 607.9 to 621.0 LEVEL 1 City Of Edinburgh 592.5 to 584.1 Perth & Kinross 550.8 to 550.8 LEVEL 1 West Dunbartonshire 530.8 to 518.4 LEVEL 1 Angus 498.3 to 522.4 LEVEL 1 Renfrewshire 523.2 to 522.1 East Dunbartonshire 511.8 to 507.2 East Renfrewshire 475.2 to 496.2 Glasgow City 493.0 to 495.5 Inverclyde 456.3 to 487.1 LEVEL 1 Fife 479.2 to 469.8 LEVEL 1 Aberdeen City 447.8 to 450.0 LEVEL1 East Ayrshire 430.3 to 400.8 North Lanarkshire 386.4 to 392.5 West Lothian 388.9 to 387.8 LEVEL1 Falkirk 356.1 to 348.7 LEVEL 1 South Lanarkshire 313.9 to 317.9 North Ayrshire 267.9 to 280.5 Stirling 278.1 to 278.1 Scottish Borders 270.1 to 277.0 LEVEL 1 Highlands 262.9 to 270.5 LEVEL 1 Clackmannanshire 246.4 to 252.2 South Ayrshire 254.9 to 247.8 OFFICIAL LEVEL 1 BLACK Aberdeenshire 230.1 to 220.5 Argyll & Bute 203.8 to 205.0 Dumfries & Galloway 127.0 to 127.0 Moray 80.4 to 89.8 OFFICIAL LEVEL 0 Teuchters in Green Orkney Islands 58.4 to 62.9 Shetland Islands 48.0 to 48.0 Western Isles 37.4 to 37.4 Edited July 7, 2021 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Another treatment announced by the WHO, or just being publicly announced now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 55 minutes ago, HTG said: Absolutely. Others for our time include: You tried your best and failed. The lesson is, never try. And If something's hard to do, it's not worth doing. Trying is the first step on the road to failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 53 minutes ago, HTG said: Absolutely. Others for our time include: You tried your best and failed. The lesson is, never try. And If something's hard to do, it's not worth doing. Listen son, you'll never find the answers to life's problems at the bottom of a glass of beer. But then again, you'll not find them at the bottom of a glass of milk either. And beer tastes nicer, so drink beer. or... This is the worst day of my life!!! No son, this is the worst day of your life, so far... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Tbf it’s better to do a 7 day comparison on cases. This figure is lower than last Wednesday’s numbers. Agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. If you look at the specimen dates it seems clear we peaked in the first half of last week. Today's figure is still less than last Wednesday, and the seven-day test-positivity rate is falling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Cases falling despite loosening, not tightening restrictions over the course of the "wave" eh. BLOW THE WHISTLE REF!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Listen son, you'll never find the answers to life's problems at the bottom of a glass of beer. But then again, you'll not find them at the bottom of a glass of milk either. And beer tastes nicer, so drink beer. or... This is the worst day of my life!!! No son, this is the worst day of your life, so far... You dont win friends with salad. Mr Gumble, this is a girl scout meeting. ... Or is it that you girls can't admit that you have a problem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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