welshbairn Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, deegee said: I’m in London next week and won’t expect to wear one the minute I leave Heathrow. It will be interesting to hear how you find it on the Piccadilly Line. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Won’t be on the Tube. I’ve a hire car and staying in Chiswick. From what I’m told by colleagues in London, mask wearing is patchy on the tube too, depending naturally on time of day etc. Folk can wear masks from now till the end of time, for all I care. It’s just the fact that a piece of usually ill- fitted, non medical grade manky cloth rag seriously impacts on folks’ perception of risk and safety. Out of interest, why do you think I’d be on the Piccadilly Line anyway and what were you expecting me to answer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, deegee said: Won’t be on the Tube. I’ve a hire car and staying in Chiswick. From what I’m told by colleagues in London, mask wearing is patchy on the tube too, depending naturally on time of day etc. Folk can wear masks from now till the end of time, for all I care. It’s just the fact that a piece of usually ill- fitted, non medical grade manky cloth rag seriously impacts on folks’ perception of risk and safety. Out of interest, why do you think I’d be on the Piccadilly Line anyway and what were you expecting me to answer? It's just how most people leave Heathrow, no biggie. Was just interested to get your impressions of the percentage of people wearing masks on the Tube, I'd heard it's quite high. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's just how most people leave Heathrow, no biggie. Was just interested to get your impressions of the percentage of people wearing masks on the Tube, I'd heard it's quite high. Fair enough question mate. I just don’t ever get the Tube from the airport tbh and always get a car at T5 from Avis. From what I hear, there’s a similar clash to Scotland where the mayor, Sadiq Khan will do the opposite to the Tory Government which leads in turn to folk being polarised on things like mask wearing on the tube. The times in the past few months I’ve been in London, I genuinely drop the mask as I leave the terminal and won’t have it on till I’m heading home. Last time I on the Docklands Light Railway or on the Tube, it was very mixed compliance with masks. As I said previously, I’m told masks are basically patched come the evening passengers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Going even by the last few pages on this thread, which has been a generally interesting read this past 20 months, it’s clear folk are getting to the end of their tether, there’s lots of bickering with little actual benefit to the thread content and it’s probably a good thing we’re losing our heads over graphs and masks, rather than huge numbers of deaths. If we could take a step back, we’d realise surely this has become a political shit- show and hobby horse across many many nations since Spring 21, due mainly to the vaccines being a fantastic success but frankly politicians of all colours have seized their moment and want to keep up their opportunity to impose punitive controls. Surely if figures stay as they are and if winter seasonal flus overtake COVID as being a pest for the population, then we can hope the NHS gets back to normal and folk can get back to absolute normal; not some masked- up or passport- regulated normal. Surely that’s all what everyone wants? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 46 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It will be interesting to hear how you find it on the Piccadilly Line. Honking simp patter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, deegee said: Fair enough question mate. 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Honking simp patter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy1 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, deegee said: Going even by the last few pages on this thread, which has been a generally interesting read this past 20 months, it’s clear folk are getting to the end of their tether, there’s lots of bickering with little actual benefit to the thread content and it’s probably a good thing we’re losing our heads over graphs and masks, rather than huge numbers of deaths. If we could take a step back, we’d realise surely this has become a political shit- show and hobby horse across many many nations since Spring 21, due mainly to the vaccines being a fantastic success but frankly politicians of all colours have seized their moment and want to keep up their opportunity to impose punitive controls. Surely if figures stay as they are and if winter seasonal flus overtake COVID as being a pest for the population, then we can hope the NHS gets back to normal and folk can get back to absolute normal; not some masked- up or passport- regulated normal. Surely that’s all what everyone wants? I mean the vaccines could be arguably a success for the high risk, and certainly for the vaccine companies who have rolled them out with impunity from prosecution, whilst still under trials and on the back of dubious data, but not so much for the people who have to be coerced to take it, had severe adverse reactions or were told it was “highly effective” when in fact it doesn’t stop infection, transmission or even last long before you need a booster and can only even be called a vaccine because the definition was changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, deegee said: Won’t be on the Tube. I’ve a hire car and staying in Chiswick. Why on earth would you hire a car to get to Chiswick? By the time you’ve pissed about picking up the car you would already be in Chiswick if you jumped on the tube. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Left Back said: Why on earth would you hire a car to get to Chiswick? By the time you’ve pissed about picking up the car you would already be in Chiswick if you jumped on the tube. I’m down till Thursday afternoon and have meetings in Essex as well as most probably visiting new customer sites to the west of London. No chance I’d do that for 3 days on the Tube tbh. Plus as a perk of being on AVIS loyalty scheme, the keys are literally waiting for me at their kiosk at the car park directly next to T5. I’d be in the car and on the road within minutes compared to getting a train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: It will be interesting to hear how you find it on the Piccadilly Line. 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: It's just how most people leave Heathrow, no biggie. Was just interested to get your impressions of the percentage of people wearing masks on the Tube, I'd heard it's quite high. lol wut Rode the Piccadilly Line several times a couple of weeks back, including to and from Heathrow, and while admittedly mask wearing is high among folk clearly going to the airport or folk first heading into the city, as you progress past the first few stops fewer and fewer people give a toss. At best its 50-50 on the tube, and I'd say business types are even less likely to be wearing one. In shops and museums etc you're lucky if a quarter of people are, while in bars and restaurants it's literally zero for obvious reasons, with no contact tracing, plastic screens and most staff not wearing them, which was nice to see. As an aside, is mask wearing actually even still required in English airports? The Scandinavians have certainly binned them in airports and on flights within/between Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I think in fairness masks are still required in English airports but I really don’t know if that’s enforced by law. I was in Heathrow last month and I didn’t wear a mask after security. There was probably 20- 25% non wearers but bear in mind the number of international travellers. A fortnight ago in Birmingham airport, I would say there was more likely 50-50 compliance, which went to about 25% once folk hit shops and restaurants area. When I was in Birmingham three weeks ago, I took the train in the evening to Leicester (to visit daughter who is at college there) and masks were basically 5% worn. In Leicester, we went for a meal and game of bowling. I went for a beer before heading back to Brum and I’d say there was virtually zero masks anywhere I was from 5pm until getting back to Brum at 11ish. Compare this to Stirling today and it was 95% masked up scared folk. I have ditched the mask now for a few weeks but that’s my personal choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: My local optician washes down their seats after every customer and is forcing people to wash their hands as a condition of being seen. So that's one customer they've lost after 20 years of using them. f**k 'em. Between Specsavers and this OCD shite, they'll not be in business for much longer. Honestly. Handwashing. To protect against an airborne virus. This is mental illness. No doubt about that. I popped into the local (popular) bar/ restaurant a couple minutes walk from my house tonight, for a pint before dinner. It staggered me to see hand wash on every table and most of the folk arriving were obsessively rubbing their hands in gel the second they entered the premises. Instructions on hand washing everywhere in the toilets and staff taking to each other with masks on..it was nothing more than a pantomime of fear but it worries me how terrified folk actually are! It frankly boils down to and doesn’t help that Nicola’s cult followers will obsessively follow her lead (and I include my other half in this). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Do folk realise the mask legislation is different in England and Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, deegee said: I popped into the local (popular) bar/ restaurant a couple minutes walk from my house tonight, for a pint before dinner. It staggered me to see hand wash on every table and most of the folk arriving were obsessively rubbing their hands in gel the second they entered the premises. Instructions on hand washing everywhere in the toilets and staff taking to each other with masks on..it was nothing more than a pantomime of fear but it worries me how terrified folk actually are! It frankly boils down to and doesn’t help that Nicola’s cult followers will obsessively follow her lead (and I include my other half in this). Popped in to grab a McDonald’s yesterday. They wanted to me to do test and trace and had to wait until the self service kiosk was clear to place my order on the screen. Was only asking to take it away. Edited November 6, 2021 by Lyle Lanley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, oaksoft said: My local optician washes down their seats after every customer and is forcing people to wash their hands as a condition of being seen. So that's one customer they've lost after 20 years of using them. f**k 'em. Between Specsavers and this OCD shite, they'll not be in business for much longer. Honestly. Handwashing. To protect against an airborne virus. This is mental illness. No doubt about that. Interesting. I went to my local Vision Express a couple of weeks ago, and, as usual, I was mask free. No comments whatsoever. I do agree, however, with the earlier poster that things seem to be getting worse here in Central Scotland.. Wherever we go, my wife and I seem to be the only people not wearing masks, whereas, a month or two back we would always see quite a few likeminded people. At a funeral a couple of days ago and, again, we were the only ones unmasked. People were singing hymns through their masks. Absolutely ludicrous behaviour!! Edited November 6, 2021 by Dawson Park Boy Omission 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Elixir said: lol wut Rode the Piccadilly Line several times a couple of weeks back, including to and from Heathrow, and while admittedly mask wearing is high among folk clearly going to the airport or folk first heading into the city, as you progress past the first few stops fewer and fewer people give a toss. At best its 50-50 on the tube, and I'd say business types are even less likely to be wearing one. In shops and museums etc you're lucky if a quarter of people are, while in bars and restaurants it's literally zero for obvious reasons, with no contact tracing, plastic screens and most staff not wearing them, which was nice to see. As an aside, is mask wearing actually even still required in English airports? The Scandinavians have certainly binned them in airports and on flights within/between Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. Would agree about mask wearing being about 50-50 on the London underground. Maybe even 40-60. That was my experience a couple of weeks ago while down there for the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, oaksoft said: My local optician washes down their seats after every customer and is forcing people to wash their hands as a condition of being seen. So that's one customer they've lost after 20 years of using them. f**k 'em. Between Specsavers and this OCD shite, they'll not be in business for much longer. Honestly. Handwashing. To protect against an airborne virus. This is mental illness. No doubt about that. I still find it amazing, watching people complain about washing their hands. @oaksoft You really are a clatty b*****d. Utter moonhowling nonsense 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Popped in to grab a McDonald’s yesterday. They wanted to me to do test and trace and had to wait until the self service kiosk was clear to place my order on the screen. Was only asking to take it away. Isn’t it strange how places vary?…I was at the McDonalds at Newbridge Roundabout this afternoon, waiting to pick up my daughter from the airport. I walked in, no mask as were a few others and no issue at all. Place was packed and it looked weird with some folk masked standing or seating a few centimetres from others. No sense at all to the rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, deegee said: Isn’t it strange how places vary?…I was at the McDonalds at Newbridge Roundabout this afternoon, waiting to pick up my daughter from the airport. I walked in, no mask as were a few others and no issue at all. Place was packed and it looked weird with some folk masked standing or seating a few centimetres from others. No sense at all to the rules. It will take a while for all restaurants to get back to pre covid normal for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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