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[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

I am no expert on feminism but even I am somewhat unsure that a bona Fide feminist would make a comment like this.

 

I'm obviously getting a different message from others on here, but if all my friends had covid I'd think about testing and maybe staying in rather than travelling a hundred miles to take it to another town.

Edited January 1, 2022 by welshbairn

[Detournement]

Just now, welshbairn said:

I'm obviously getting a different message from others on here, but if all my friends had covid I'd think about testing and maybe staying in rather than travelling a hundred miles to go pubbing it in another town.

Maybe they haven't seen their friends much recently?

 

[Lyle Lanley]

 

As usual some of the replies here. 

[RH33]

27 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Maybe you're only a 7.5 out of 10...

I'm not even a 5.5.

[No_Problemo]

5 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I'm obviously getting a different message from others on here, but if all my friends had covid I'd think about testing and maybe staying in rather than travelling a hundred miles to take it to another town.

This being your response to two young girls being the victim of a social media witch hunt doesn’t reflect very well on you. 
 

 

[welshbairn]

Just now, No_Problemo said:

This being your response to two young girls being the victim of a social media witch hunt doesn’t reflect very well on you. 
 

 

All I know of them is that video.

[Scott Steiner]

33 minutes ago, Thorongil said:

It’s a calling card of a moron. A lot of feminists also really hate women, especially if they are remotely attractive.

Very true, Thorongil.

They like to pretend they speak for women, but in reality they only speak for a few.

Most women don't hate men, just want to get on with their lives, respect complimentarianism and don't want anything to do with yer Kate Smurthwaites of the world.

[No_Problemo]

Just now, welshbairn said:

All I know of them is that video.

You replied to a quote which screenshotted abusive comments...

[Clown Job]

No rule say you can’t leave Scotland you miserable and more than likely a massive VL

We (as in the public) are doing our part by being one of the highest vaccinated countries in the world. 

The vaccine is the way out of this, not sitting in the house on Hogmanay 

[welshbairn]

6 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

You replied to a quote which screenshotted abusive comments...

I don't look for sense on twitter, I was just responding to their own words. I've no idea why people on here search for nutters on the opposing side  thinking it will help to support their view. 

Edited January 1, 2022 by welshbairn

[Moomintroll]

21 minutes ago, Thorongil said:

I’m not, you moron. Engage with my point if you can. Or f**k off.

Maybe you should f**k off, you tedious c**t.

[No_Problemo]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I don't look for sense on twitter, I was just responding to their own words. I've no idea why people on here search for nutters on the opposing side, thinking it will help to support their view. 

Did they say they didn’t test themselves for covid at any point? 
 

The only thing worth commenting on is the vile abuse they are receiving, not making something up about them not testing and having a further go at them.
You also have no idea if they had even seen their friends that have covid. Amazingly, two of my friends have COVID, but I don’t so I went to a house party last night - wild stuff. 

[Sergeant Wilson]

15 minutes ago, RH33 said:

I'm not even a 5.5.

That gets rounded up to 9 in the taxi queue.

[welshbairn]

7 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

Did they say they didn’t test themselves for covid at any point? 
 

The only thing worth commenting on is the vile abuse they are receiving, not making something up about them not testing and having a further go at them.
You also have no idea if they had even seen their friends that have covid. Amazingly, two of my friends have COVID, but I don’t so I went to a house party last night - wild stuff. 

If there's a longer interview I'm be happy to listen, all I heard was they came to Carlisle because all their friends at home had Covid, and there were fewer restrictions. Well done if they did test themselves before leaving. Why would I want to read a load of nutters responding on twitter?

Edited January 1, 2022 by welshbairn

[No_Problemo]

1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

If there's a longer interview I'm be happy to listen, all I heard was they came to Carlisle because all the friends at home had Covid, and there were fewer restrictions. Well done if they did test themselves before leaving.

But you were happy to jump in with both feet and question why they didn’t test themselves and stay in the house. 
 

By that metric, we should now all be staying in the house as soon as someone we know has covid. It makes no difference if you are going to your local shop, Carlisle or Spain. 

[Miguel Sanchez]

24 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

 

As usual some of the replies here. 

You only ever seem to post links to Reddit on here to complain about people. I don't see why you bother looking at them if you find them so disagreeable.

[Frankie S]

11 hours ago, Abdul_Latif said:

I’m sure Swinney said the other day that nightclubs could still operate so long as they were doing table service only?

Yes, nightclubs can still operate as socially-distanced bars offering table service only. The downside is that if they choose to do so they make themselves ineligible for the government grants that will be awarded to nightclubs that don’t repurpose themselves as socially-distanced bars. So, in effect the government is strongly disincentivising nightclubs from operating at all, even in a repurposed regulation-compliant fashion.

The details of the grants that will be awarded to nightclubs, in predictably inept fashion, were only confirmed yesterday, 31st December (I only found out by notification email from NTIA entitled ‘Important update on nightclub closure grants’) received at 15.39, 31.12.21, rather than any direct contact from the government) - 20k and 30k grants depending on size of the business (small / large nightclubs - which may or may not be calculated on the basis of rateable value - hospitality outlets are being awarded grants of differing amounts 4.5k / 5.8k depending on a 51k rateable value threshold). Annoyingly the guidance released yesterday stated that nightclubs had to stop trading by midnight on 31st December to qualify for this funding, but the vast majority of nightclubs had already shut down on 27th December, which was the date decided for the reintroduction of physical distancing in hospitality and the closure of nightclubs. So nightclubs could have traded as socially-distanced bars up to the stroke of midnight on 31st December and remained eligible for funding, as long as they ceased these operations at midnight on the 31st, when the messaging previously emanating from Scot Gov was that the cut off point was to be 27th Dec. It would have been considerate of the Scottish government to let us know that with more than about 8 and a half hours fucking notice. Presumably the intention was not to penalise those businesses that continued to operate (socially distanced from 27th Dec) before the detail was provided as to the level of funding to be expected, due to Scot Gov’s characteristic failure to make a timely decision, but the net effect is that the vast majority of businesses in the sector have been retrospectively told they could have operated for another 5 days (27-31 inclusive) without penalty after they’d already shut.  Armando Ianucci will have to come up with a new term to describe the Scottish government’s handling of the hospitality / nightclubs sectors during the pandemic as ‘omnishambles’ doesn’t quite cover it.

I took the decision to close my nightclub on 27th December and elect for Nicola’s lucky dip, a complete punt as the amount of expected funding was unconfirmed at that stage and the Scottish government’s derisory offer to hospitality suggested it would be on the low side. As it happens 20k/30k is slightly more than I expected, but it depends how long this farago drags on for as a condition for the award of the grant is that recipient nightclubs remain closed until the nightclub closure order is lifted and don’t repurpose themselves as socially-distanced bars if the nightclub ban isn’t lifted on 17th January as hoped. The natural inclination of business is to maximise income and minimise losses, but due to Scot Gov’s consistent meddling, business owners are now having to run their businesses in a counter-intuitive fashion, trying to predict what funding might be coming down the pipeline as the government belatedly fill in the minutiae of their capricious ad hoc policies, seemingly formulated reactively and without due consideration to the detail that businesses need to make informed decisions that impact the livelihoods of their staff. Given that (in our case) we are continuing to pay all full-time staff at 100% and are paying our part-timers a proportion of their average wage in our own simulated furlough scheme (in the absence of a actual government furlough scheme), 20k (we are on the lower end of the rateable value spectrum) might just about cover a reasonable proportion of our overheads during the period of closure, provided this doesn’t drag on for much longer than the initial 3 weeks, though it certainly won’t compensate for the loss of the most lucrative night of the year - Hogmanay.

I operate a bar / restaurant / music venue in addition to the nightclub. The bar / restaurant has traded throughout December at greatly reduced levels since Public Health Scotland and Scot Gov advised everyone to avoid Christmas parties and stay at home as much as possible - we’ve lost a six figure sum in December alone in cancelled bookings / reduced takings, so 5.8k won’t touch the sides of that, but there is talk of another round of GMV (grass roots music venues) funding, so we should be eligible for that, if and when it transpires. We had to cancel our Hogmanay event, but fortunately we had two Hogmanay dinner sittings fully subscribed (we are a large premises so that’s a significant number of covers, even with distanced tables) and late cancellations were balanced by late bookings. I was DJing in the bar, and it was a good atmosphere (albeit not a patch on what it would be normally), with all groups socially-distanced and all current Covid protocols and mitigations observed, though at the stroke of midnight the vast majority threw caution to the wind, embracing and congratulating each-other and even (God forbid) briefly dancing between the tables. For a few moments it was as if the world was back to normal. I’m not sure Sturgeon would have approved, but I’d imagine these scenes were replicated in almost every busy bar in the country, a brief window of spontaneity and joy before a return to the stiflingly puritanical reality that is the ‘new normal’ in Scotland.

Edited January 1, 2022 by Frankie S

[Thorongil]

13 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:

Maybe you should f**k off, you tedious c**t.

No, YOU!

[welshbairn]

2 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

But you were happy to jump in with both feet and question why they didn’t test themselves and stay in the house. 
 

By that metric, we should now all be staying in the house as soon as someone we know has covid. It makes no difference if you are going to your local shop, Carlisle or Spain. 

Someone posted their interview without providing any background. I can only take them by their own words as shown.

[Elixir]

1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:

I see Manchester is taking it's short turn at being the Covid capital.

Wonder if Burnham will stick to his views RE: restrictions.

 

1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

What is it with these absolute fun sponges? Im sorry that these wee lassies robbed of two years of their lives went to Carlisle for a night out? 

Comments are absolutely fucking awful on that, sneering, horrible people. Genuinely some tweets on that calling them slags and sluts and wishing death on them? Just because they ignored Nicola’s wishes? And people really say it isnt a cult? 

We really need to just let this wave burn through quickly right now. 

Omicron spreads so quickly that restrictions literally won't work to delay it. I suspect even China is about to find this out. Certainly there is absolutely no point in trying anything in the UK at this point. The horse has long since bolted.

 

 

41 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

I need to agree. The gentleman presents a set of symptoms that really do prove this wave is no less severe than previous waves when people were lying on their deathbeds and drowning in their own mucus whilst tweeting from their bed in ICU before they perished.

There is literally a whole new group of people who think feeling like shite for a few days is morally reprehensible. Broken saddos who need psychiatric help.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

No rule say you can’t leave Scotland you miserable and more than likely a massive VL

We (as in the public) are doing our part by being one of the highest vaccinated countries in the world. 

The vaccine is the way out of this, not sitting in the house on Hogmanay 

People that trot out 'if we follow the rules, the sooner we can get back to normal' are the absolute worst c**ts. There is quite literally no endpoint as whenever 'the rules' are lifted and the indicators turn unfavourably for the health lobby, 'the rules' need to come back. Rinse and repeat. Just get in the fucking bin.