Trogdor Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Nice to see MSM opinion begin to turn. The Sun (yes I know) were running a front page today. A prof Woodhouse was saying "Therr is still no good cause for a full lockdown. Lockdowns signify a failure of public health policy". he also went on to say it's a "lazy solution to a novel coronavirus epidemic and hugely damaging" . Nice to see health experts like this speak sensibly rather than moonhowler like Devi, JL, Bauld, Ferguson etc How Professor 'Pants down' or 'Lock down' (whichever one you prefer) still gets air time is beyond me. He is the very epitome of the prophet of doom. I don't think one of his models have been correct yet. Edited January 3, 2022 by Trogdor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Trogdor said: How Professor 'Pants down' or 'Lock down' (whichever one you prefer) still gets air time is beyond me. He is the very epitome of the prophet of doom. I don't think one of his models have been correct yet. Ferguson I take it? him and that Pennington (so?) guy have had nightmares with their predictions so far! Although to be fair to Hugh, he has been more rational in recent months Edited January 3, 2022 by Thereisalight.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Peak in Feb, Jase? Restrictions into April? Edited January 3, 2022 by Todd_is_God 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 My step dad has covid - he got a positive result this morning from his PCR test. The care home said at that time that he didn't seem to be showing any symptons and appeared to be okay.Roll on 3 hours and Mum received a call to say he is poorly and is on oxygen. They are waiting for a doctor to arrive to see if he needs to be hospitalised. The care centre closed for visitors from Friday because of initial cases so she hasn't seen him since last Wednesday. Just trying to think positively - he had pneumonia and sepsis at the start of November so hasn't been in great health - just moved into the care home at the start of December. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Good news for Sturgeon and another reason to be 'cautious' - A variant with FORTY SIX mutations has been discovered in the south of France. Best continue to close football stadiums etc. Just to be safe ay. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/new-variant-france-46-mutations-22634183.amp Edited January 3, 2022 by Steven W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: So vaccines are ineffective? They are certainly not currently sufficient according to Professor Leitch and Miss Sturgeon. Even those, like us who have had two jabs plus a booster plus an annual flu jab are being urged to ta take very frequent tests - hardly a sign of confidence in the science advice. .With regard to the present staff shortages attributed to Covid in the NHS and other key sectors, it would be helpful to know what percentage actually have the virus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Nice to see MSM opinion begin to turn. The Sun (yes I know) were running a front page today. A prof Woodhouse was saying "Therr is still no good cause for a full lockdown. Lockdowns signify a failure of public health policy". he also went on to say it's a "lazy solution to a novel coronavirus epidemic and hugely damaging" . Nice to see health experts like this speak sensibly rather than moonhowler like Devi, JL, Bauld, Ferguson etc While this is undoubtedly true, it remains equally true that a full lockdown would be preferable to the halfway house that is literally destroying people’s livelihoods under current Holyrood policy. Comparisons with England show that Scottish measures have really had negligible effect on transmission, yet crippled pubs, hotels, clubs and cafes financially. There’s no ideological justification for Sturgeon’s stance. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 A full lockdown really would not be preferable. And in any case, the SG is (rightly) not getting the money to do that. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Blue Brazil Forever said: They are certainly not currently sufficient according to Professor Leitch and Miss Sturgeon. Even those, like us who have had two jabs plus a booster plus an annual flu jab are being urged to ta take very frequent tests - hardly a sign of confidence in the science advice. .With regard to the present staff shortages attributed to Covid in the NHS and other key sectors, it would be helpful to know what percentage actually have the virus. Almost everyone I know who has the virus currently is either two or jabbed, or two plus a booster. That’s certainly the case I’m in. I don’t feel particularly grateful for our government, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 The thing to remember about this all is that if it wasn't for internal Tory politics and Boris being a clown the whole of Europe would have blanket restrictions which we would be told were staving off huge numbers of deaths. We are in the strange situation of the darts lads at Ally Pally saving society by showing Omicron is a load of pish one chant at a time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Care centre just phoned - step-dad has stabilised not any better but not any worse. Doctor has asked for his bloods to be tested before they make a decision about hospital. They are hoping to find out tonight but it might be middle of night before results come through. If he is hospitalised my Mum has been told that she will not get into see him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Cases per capita significantly higher here than in England today despite the darts and the fitba. I predict we will hear from Swinney tomorrow but not Sturgeon. Edited January 3, 2022 by Detournement 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Cases per capita significantly higher here than in England today despite the darts and the fitba. I predict will here from Swinney tomorrow but not Sturgeon.But we're 3rd in the world with our vaccine rollout. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Care centre just phoned - step-dad has stabilised not any better but not any worse. Doctor has asked for his bloods to be tested before they make a decision about hospital. They are hoping to find out tonight but it might be middle of night before results come through. If he is hospitalised my Mum has been told that she will not get into see him. Best wishes for you and your family mate. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Cases per capita significantly higher here than in England today despite the darts and the fitba. I predict will here from Swinney tomorrow but not Sturgeon. No doubt the lassies who went to Carlisle will get the blame for the rise in cases 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Cases per capita significantly higher here than in England today despite the darts and the fitba. I predict will here from Swinney tomorrow but not Sturgeon. But we're 3rd in the world with our vaccine rollout. Any argument that the vaccine reduces transmission has crumbled. Any further restrictions based on vaccination status will be purely punitive. The Canadian racist PM Trudeau was getting at that in an interview at the weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Care centre just phoned - step-dad has stabilised not any better but not any worse. Doctor has asked for his bloods to be tested before they make a decision about hospital. They are hoping to find out tonight but it might be middle of night before results come through. If he is hospitalised my Mum has been told that she will not get into see him. Hopefully everything is OK for you and your family. I went through a scenario with my mum in that the was transferred to a SATA ward upon arrival in hospital. It was only once it was determined that she was at end of life that they waived the restrictions for me, my dad and my partner to see her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Care centre just phoned - step-dad has stabilised not any better but not any worse. Doctor has asked for his bloods to be tested before they make a decision about hospital. They are hoping to find out tonight but it might be middle of night before results come through. If he is hospitalised my Mum has been told that she will not get into see him. Best wishes to your stepdad and family at this time mate. Fingers crossed that you get better news tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, red23 said: been chatting to this girl a while and been invited to her house but shes still isolating from a positive covid test until 6th Jan so plan is to meet up after. Risky or no? Does she a bit friendly after a few drinks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcernedReferee Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Fully agree with the comment above. For me, the frustration is how I seem to be in a minority of one at work or even within my family. Do any of you guys find this? For the life of me, I cannot understand why people blindly accept all this stuff. Imagine having had three jags within a year and still being worried about going out/getting a sniffle. The second anyone raises a hint of disbelief or suspicion they are met with extremist views. You can't say "I feel fit and healthy, I don't want to take the vaccine" without being called a conspiracy theorist at best or a deluded right wing nazi at worst. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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