GHF-23 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 hours ago, printer said: "An inclusion mentor". Yes, imagine a school employing someone to help make a place that children occupy inclusive. Absolutely crazy stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, GHF-23 said: Yes, imagine a school employing someone to help make a place that children occupy inclusive. Absolutely crazy stuff They used to be called teachers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: They used to be called teachers. I always thought they were there to teach kids and manage classrooms? Well I guess we should just make that completely their responsibility, I'm sure bullying in schools isn't a big enough issue that we should be investing in a single FTE in some schools Edited March 14 by GHF-23 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, GHF-23 said: I always thought they were there to teach kids and manage classrooms? Well I guess we should just make that completely their responsibility, I'm sure bullying in schools isn't a big enough issue that we should be investing in a single FTE in some schools You obviously don't know the education sector so I won't let that get in the way of your virtue signalling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: You obviously don't know the education sector so I won't let that get in the way of your virtue signalling. Lol yes it is virtue signalling to say having a person in a school who is there to promote inclusivity is not something you think should produce an eye rolling reaction. As an aside are you not the guy who gets upset about the inauthenticity of people using cream in carbonara? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, GHF-23 said: Lol yes it is virtue signalling to say having a person in a school who is there to promote inclusivity is not something you think should produce an eye rolling reaction. As an aside are you not the guy who gets upset about the inauthenticity of people using cream in carbonara? Yes and don't you forget it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 hours ago, GHF-23 said: Yes, imagine a school employing someone to help make a place that children occupy inclusive. Absolutely crazy stuff What does the job role involve on a daily basis, and in what bizarre alternative universe should individual schools even be tasked with developing their own inclusivity policies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 (edited) Here is a job description for inclusion mentor in Nottinghamshire, where the quoted person lives. https://nottinghamshire.tal.net/vx/mobile-0/appcentre-ext/brand-3/candidate/so/pm/4/pl/1/opp/21101-Inclusion-Mentor/en-GB#:~:text=The role of the Inclusion,create opportunities for the future. From reading other job adverts it's about stopping pupils from being excluded, working with children who have behavioural difficulties, as opposed to inclusion in the sense of "the wokes having special classes for Somali crack babies" type of thing. Appalling salaries for these jobs, which must be very hard work. One advert has the following responsibilities Salary is £16,586 - who the hell wants to do that job for that pay? Edited March 14 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Getting it back relatively on topic, I bet there’s been an increase in the demand for these jobs post-Covid due to the widely reported increase in poor behaviour, mental health problems and pupil absence. Emma in Nottingham will have her work cut out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: From reading other job adverts it's about stopping pupils from being excluded Pupils could simply stop being dicks rather than taking thinly stretched resources away from other pupils on top of their learning already being disrupted by wasters who won’t behave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 14 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Pupils could simply stop being dicks rather than taking thinly stretched resources away from other pupils on top of their learning already being disrupted by wasters who won’t behave. when you were a teenager did you really think like that or was it more " lets do some dick move here it will be funny as f**k" be honest, i know what I was like Back on to the point, if you could be confident your job would be unaffected by restrictions then you could treat lockdown like a holiday, but if your job, business or livelihood more generally was in jeopardy as well as your kids education/ opportunities, your mental health etc. then it was a fucking shite time all round 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: when you were a teenager did you really think like that or was it more " lets do some dick move here it will be funny as f**k" be honest, i know what I was like Actually I behaved myself when I was younger. Not least because the shoeing I'd have gotten had I been papped out of school for being a dick wasn't something I was dying to tick off my bucket list. However, let's both be serious here... we're not talking about pupils who are a "bit of a lad" now and then. We're talking about those who aren't arsed at all about school and are routinely disruptive, to the detriment of everyone else. Edited March 14 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 5 hours ago, ICTChris said: Here is a job description for inclusion mentor in Nottinghamshire, where the quoted person lives. https://nottinghamshire.tal.net/vx/mobile-0/appcentre-ext/brand-3/candidate/so/pm/4/pl/1/opp/21101-Inclusion-Mentor/en-GB#:~:text=The role of the Inclusion,create opportunities for the future. From reading other job adverts it's about stopping pupils from being excluded, working with children who have behavioural difficulties, as opposed to inclusion in the sense of "the wokes having special classes for Somali crack babies" type of thing. Appalling salaries for these jobs, which must be very hard work. One advert has the following responsibilities Salary is £16,586 - who the hell wants to do that job for that pay? The salary is listed as £22-£25k for the academic year. £25k for 40 weeks work is equivalent to 93% of the UK average salary over the same period. Hardly appalling. Edited March 14 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 hours ago, ICTChris said: Here is a job description for inclusion mentor in Nottinghamshire, where the quoted person lives. https://nottinghamshire.tal.net/vx/mobile-0/appcentre-ext/brand-3/candidate/so/pm/4/pl/1/opp/21101-Inclusion-Mentor/en-GB#:~:text=The role of the Inclusion,create opportunities for the future. From reading other job adverts it's about stopping pupils from being excluded, working with children who have behavioural difficulties, as opposed to inclusion in the sense of "the wokes having special classes for Somali crack babies" type of thing. Appalling salaries for these jobs, which must be very hard work. One advert has the following responsibilities Salary is £16,586 - who the hell wants to do that job for that pay? Generally, certainly where I was working, modern job descriptions read as though they need a near-genius to do the job. They are often a pile of shite IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 I occasionally dip into Zero Covid Twitter still. There’s one account, claming to be an anonymous neurosurgeon who repeatedly posts that Covid causes dementia and that there is widespread brain damage in the population. Evidence given includes the Boeing safety crisis, the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, higher levels of “sociopathy in society” (usually defined as people not following the same Covid restrictions now as in April 2020). The thing that I found interesting is that the person usually comes out with this tweet, or variations of it This is extremely similar to what mad anti-vaxxers say - “you’ll be sorry! When you all start dying suddenly, getting myocarditis etc you’ll all come crawling back to us!”. I believe Joe Rogan made comments like this on a recent podcast. I think among neurotic, obsessive people the feeling that you are in a redemptive arc and are the hero is very common. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 24 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I occasionally dip into Zero Covid Twitter still. There’s one account, claming to be an anonymous neurosurgeon who repeatedly posts that Covid causes dementia and that there is widespread brain damage in the population. Evidence given includes the Boeing safety crisis, the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, higher levels of “sociopathy in society” (usually defined as people not following the same Covid restrictions now as in April 2020). The thing that I found interesting is that the person usually comes out with this tweet, or variations of it This is extremely similar to what mad anti-vaxxers say - “you’ll be sorry! When you all start dying suddenly, getting myocarditis etc you’ll all come crawling back to us!”. I believe Joe Rogan made comments like this on a recent podcast. I think among neurotic, obsessive people the feeling that you are in a redemptive arc and are the hero is very common. Good exchange here. I'm beginning to be of the Dead Internet theory that I am the only real person online and everything else is a bot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) It's going to be a battle between people claiming that Covid caused every increase in certain illnesses in the coming years, and those claiming it was the Covid vaccines. So far the evidence seems to favour the former where there might be a real causal link. Edited March 14 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 How is P&B mascot Deepti doing these days? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Apparently today is “Long COVID awareness day”, which makes this article perfectly timed. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/15/long-covid-symptoms-flu-cold tl;dr - “long COVID” does exist, but it’s essentially no different to any other post-viral fatigue. So it should stop being called “long COVID” because it suggests there’s something different or special about it, when there’s currently no medical evidence this is the case. It’s a very fair and balanced take, I think. I doubt anyone (sensible) would deny that post-viral fatigue exists, and given the prevalence of COVID it’s not surprising if more people than before have/had it. But if the symptoms are no different to any other post-viral fatigue, it doesn’t make sense to give it its own name. Indeed, doing so has the effect of trivialising the long-term effects of other viruses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 20/01/2024 at 01:26, Shannon said: I can't believe she was seen as a credible scientist during COVID years and she would still have us in lockdown or wearing £1000 respirators / facemasks and only socialising outside. She definitely needs some mental health help it seems from what I see posted on here / Twitter. This response sums up what an unhinged nutjob she is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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