Wee Willie Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 This is a fascinating article from the Rolling Stone Magazine The Unraveling of America https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/?fbclid=IwAR3y7pPUQ7lx2igelAM_P1i_6hwMDq509PN9lv00eSz2e6jrKZl4Thcmti4 …The fastest vaccine ever developed was for mumps. It took four years. COVID-19 killed 100,000 Americans in four months... …To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace, making it, as he wrote, “the most warlike nation in the history of the world.”… …Since 2001, the U.S. has spent over $6 trillion on military operations and war, money that might have been invested in the infrastructure of home. China, meanwhile, built its nation, pouring more cement every three years than America did in the entire 20th century… …As America policed the world, the violence came home. On D-Day, June 6th, 1944, the Allied death toll was 4,414; in 2019, domestic gun violence had killed that many American men and women by the end of April… …For every person who has died in British Columbia, 44 have perished in Massachusetts, a state with a comparable population that has reported more COVID cases than all of Canada. As of July 30th, even as rates of COVID infection and death soared across much of the United States, with 59,629 new cases reported on that day alone, hospitals in British Columbia registered a total of just five COVID patients… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Before I read the rest of this article I'd just like to point out that the mumps vaccine was first developed in 1967, the science has moved a long way since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Restrictions coming into force in Preston tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, madwullie said: Restrictions coming into force in Preston tomorrow. Averaging 7 cases per day. Incredible. Giving local councils the power to enforce local lockdowns in England is mental when you see things like that. Edited August 7, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Before I read the rest of this article I'd just like to point out that the mumps vaccine was first developed in 1967, the science has moved a long way since then. Fair do's but I'm only the messenger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Wee Willie said: Fair do's but I'm only the messenger I've got a few quibbles but I haven't seen a better summing up of what's been going on across the pond. He left out what Eisenhower called the military industrial complex meaning that in order for Congressmen to justify demanding more dollars for arms factories and and military bases in their states, amounting to multiple times more than they needed for defence, they had an urgent motive to justify it with more wars. Anyway, here's a quote I thought summed it up. Quote To live in Canada today is like owning an apartment above a meth lab. Edited August 7, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I see that 40% of estimated grades are to be marked down in England, where there is no right of appeal. I'm sure those that have criticised the SNP over the past few days will be applying equal criticism (if not more) to the Conservative government at Westminster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Averaging 7 cases per day. Incredible. Giving local councils the power to enforce local lockdowns in England is mental when you see things like that.Again a "plucked" figure. Seven is the rolling average since the middle of June. Of course you knew that but you intentionally post shit to suit your agenda. The 7 day rolling average (the last week, the one that prompted the action) is 49 so 7 times your preferred figure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 37 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Averaging 7 cases per day. Incredible. Giving local councils the power to enforce local lockdowns in England is mental when you see things like that. Again a "plucked" figure. Seven is the rolling average since the middle of June. Of course you knew that but you intentionally post shit to suit your agenda. The 7 day rolling average (the last week, the one that prompted the action) is 49 so 7 times your preferred figure. Wrong Edited August 7, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gaz said: I see that 40% of estimated grades are to be marked down in England, where there is no right of appeal. I'm sure those that have criticised the SNP over the past few days will be applying equal criticism (if not more) to the Conservative government at Westminster. Sturgeon and Swinney made them do it so they could save face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 06/08/2020 at 09:58, Tutankhamen said: Why the big rush to open pubs in the first place? we live in a society rife with people who can't go a week without alcohol -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: the number of daily cases is looking like it wants to start coming down again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gaz said: I see that 40% of estimated grades are to be marked down in England, where there is no right of appeal. I'm sure those that have criticised the SNP over the past few days will be applying equal criticism (if not more) to the Conservative government at Westminster. Further proof, as if it were needed, that the 'professionals' in the education sector (teachers + management) couldn't be trusted to run a Craggy Island raffle fairly never mind actually determine final grades based on their wee stars' tremendous class performance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: Well no, because you are comparing two very different sets of data. It'll do the job, but it's like using a flamethrower to kill a spide. Advise a cautionary note to the vulnerable to avoid higher risk activities if you detect a little increase in a particular area. Shutting venues down should be a last resort, not the first. I've no idea what your agenda is. One day you're supporting masks and distancing as a sensible way to allow the pubs to open, as soon as they open it's stupid and unnecessary as the shielded are dying anyway so what's the point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Gaz said: I see that 40% of estimated grades are to be marked down in England, where there is no right of appeal. Where did you see that? That's on an altogether different scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I've no idea what your agenda is. One day you're supporting masks and distancing as a sensible way to allow the pubs to open, as soon as they open it's stupid and unnecessary as the shielded are dying anyway so what's the point. It's not really that hard to follow. Masks and distancing is fine. Unless hospital admissions show signs of increasing we should continue to gradually open more and more. Panicking and closing things again because a few young people test positive is nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Where did you see that? That's on an altogether different scale. It's the second story on The Guardian's website. Not yet on the BBC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, Gaz said: I see that 40% of estimated grades are to be marked down in England, where there is no right of appeal. I'm sure those that have criticised the SNP over the past few days will be applying equal criticism (if not more) to the Conservative government at Westminster. I'm not criticising it because it's the snp, it's because I think it's wrong. There will be plenty snp members whose kids will be affected by this. It goes beyond party politics imo (as does CV) I'm not particularly interested in the grades of English students. I know their government is a wreck. I believe ours can do better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I've no idea what your agenda is. One day you're supporting masks and distancing as a sensible way to allow the pubs to open, as soon as they open it's stupid and unnecessary as the shielded are dying anyway so what's the point. Always supported the Swedish method, but also supports mandatory masking and distancing. Despises local lockdowns but thinks measures amounting to local lockdowns are sensible. Edited August 7, 2020 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gaz said: It's the second story on The Guardian's website. Not yet on the BBC. Thanks - just had a look. It sounds horrendous. Schools can appeal if unhappy in general, but individual appeals aren't an option. In larger subjects, teacher predictions won't come into it at all. It's going to be a shitstorm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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