Marshmallo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 How can they say with any certainty at this stage that a death eg 29 days after a positive test is not covid related? We don't know enough about the medium to long term impacts of the virus yet. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 24/07/2020 at 14:37, Melanius Mullarkey said: Can you evidence this in anyway or is this just more opinionated claptrap, Todd? On 24/07/2020 at 14:51, Melanius Mullarkey said: Where is your evidence that stress levels are at their lowest amongst NHS staff? Or are you yet again drawing another correlation between two variables which have little connection? On 24/07/2020 at 15:38, Melanius Mullarkey said: Ah, the old classic. Ill put you down as a zero evidencer. Good day. On 28/07/2020 at 00:07, Melanius Mullarkey said: Evidence for paragraph 1, 2 and 3 then provide a link between all three. On 28/07/2020 at 08:42, Melanius Mullarkey said: You seem to get easily offended at having to provide a bit of evidence for your wild opinions, Todd. Thanks for the life coaching though. MM marking himself out earlier on the thread as the upstanding champion of evidence-based posting - indeed a quick thread search of 'evidence' pulled these results up no bother. 6 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: “I’m right, here’s a graph which I selected” ... except when the evidence doesn't actually fit his own knicker-wetting narrative of course, in which case the act of providing it is in itself a bad faith argument. I believe that this is known as a full-blown minter for you. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I’m beyond thankful to my mum, for not sending me to a school like that. It's the local secondary. It's a traditional they have observed for decades apparently. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 36 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: I’m beyond thankful to my mum, for not sending me to a school like that. It's the local secondary. It's a traditional they have observed for decades apparently. Where is that? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, virginton said: MM marking himself out earlier on the thread as the upstanding champion of evidence-based posting - indeed a quick thread search of 'evidence' pulled these results up no bother. ... except when the evidence doesn't actually fit his own knicker-wetting narrative of course, in which case the act of providing it is in itself a bad faith argument. I believe that this is known as a full-blown minter for you. White knighting a poster performing O-grade level statistical analysis with associated extrapolations of data to beyond the edge of the solar system is a new low point for yourself VT. Thanks for playing anyway. Spoiler 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 How can they say with any certainty at this stage that a death eg 29 days after a positive test is not covid related? We don't know enough about the medium to long term impacts of the virus yet. That’s true. It’s perfectly possible that the new PHE method of counting will miss some deaths while still counting some non-Covid deaths. You could die of completely unrelated causes the same day as a positive test but then suffer long term complications and die months later from Covid. My next door neighbours daughter in law was in intensive care with Covid and suffered kidney failure, which will have significant long term consequences that could cause her significant harm for years.The thing is to find a reporting mechanism that finds a balance between these extremes. It’s bee obvious doe a while that something was up with the English reporting -very large numbers for home deaths from Covid compared to anywhere else. This correction remedies that, at least a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: My next door neighbours daughter in law was in intensive care with Covid and suffered kidney failure, which will have significant long term consequences that could cause her significant harm for years. Out of interest, was this person relatively young and fit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Out of interest, was this person relatively young and fit?I think she’s in her early 30s and, without wishing to be unkind, not very fit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I think she’s in her early 30s and, without wishing to be unkind, not very fit. Big fat cūnt? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What do you actually think of the teaching profession in areas that clearly tried to play the system ?I'm pissed off and many of my colleagues are but sadly we all know it happens, and not just this year. One of the worst things to happen in my teaching lifetime has been the publishing of league tables IMO. All it encourages is the massaging of the statistics, whether that is removing people from the school roll of they think they won't pass any exams, schools that have been given inside info on exam questions (luckily a few teachers have been struck off recently after being caught doing this which will hopefully stop), pupils being waved through National 4s because there is no final exam and the kids can just sit in a room with the PT and somehow all manage to pass the unit assessments etc. Even daft things like Teachers who turn up late to in-service day meetings or who play on their phones during things like that piss me off - they wouldn't accept that from a pupil - and for a so-called profession, sadly it lacks professionalism in a great many areas. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Without meaning to be unkind... Big fat cūnt? FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Big fat cūnt? Morbidly obese -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm pissed off and many of my colleagues are but sadly we all know it happens, and not just this year. One of the worst things to happen in my teaching lifetime has been the publishing of league tables IMO. All it encourages is the massaging of the statistics, whether that is removing people from the school roll of they think they won't pass any exams, schools that have been given inside info on exam questions (luckily a few teachers have been struck off recently after being caught doing this which will hopefully stop), pupils being waved through National 4s because there is no final exam and the kids can just sit in a room with the PT and somehow all manage to pass the unit assessments etc. Even daft things like Teachers who turn up late to in-service day meetings or who play on their phones during things like that piss me off - they wouldn't accept that from a pupil - and for a so-called profession, sadly it lacks professionalism in a great many areas. Really appreciate a teacher with the honesty and balls to call out the bad eggs. Good to hear it is not impossible to be fired. Thought you had to be a convicted beast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Angusfifer said: Morbidly obese We Doctors call it BFC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Todd is God can you start a tally chart of schools vs boozers? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: We Doctors call it BFC. What do big doctors call it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Angusfifer said: Where is that? Hogwarts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Todd is God can you start a tally chart of schools vs boozers? The pubs have taken an early lead which is exactly what the schools wanted to avoid at this stage but if they continue to keep it tight as the managers said pre match then I see them getting back into the this before the break, The pubs getting an early booking might see them take a more defensive approach now as they can't afford too many suspensions as the season drags on. hard one to call at the moment, whether or not the pundits view of "you don't spread with kids " line will come back to haunt them remains to be seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Let's not get the teachers started itt again. They'll spoil for another couple of days as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: 3 hours ago, superbigal said: What do you actually think of the teaching profession in areas that clearly tried to play the system ? I'm pissed off and many of my colleagues are but sadly we all know it happens, and not just this year. One of the worst things to happen in my teaching lifetime has been the publishing of league tables IMO. All it encourages is the massaging of the statistics, whether that is removing people from the school roll of they think they won't pass any exams, schools that have been given inside info on exam questions (luckily a few teachers have been struck off recently after being caught doing this which will hopefully stop), pupils being waved through National 4s because there is no final exam and the kids can just sit in a room with the PT and somehow all manage to pass the unit assessments etc. Even daft things like Teachers who turn up late to in-service day meetings or who play on their phones during things like that piss me off - they wouldn't accept that from a pupil - and for a so-called profession, sadly it lacks professionalism in a great many areas. Currently having an argument with my wife about league tables. The catchment we live in is for a school that is pretty far down the tables, and she wants to placing request the posh school nearby. Leaving aside the fact that trying to extrapolate information from the 2020 league tables is a complete farce anyway, to the lay person they represent something completely different from the reality. Her and her pals think that a school high up the tables has superior teaching etc to those lower down, no matter how much I try to explain that it has much much more to do with the catchment area of the school. Loads of new build "posh" estates have been built in this low down schools catchment recently, so in a few years it's bound to be storming up the tables anyway, and our eldest is only just p4. I'm an snp voter and independence supporter, but their handling of education has been shite to say the least - absolute outrage that there are league tables for these national assessments (are they still doing that) despite them knowing full well what tables represent, and that all they do is further muddy the waters. Few things pissed me off more than sitting in in service meetings at the start of the new school year, and the smt practically spunk ing with excitement that the school had moved one millimetre higher on a spreadsheet So the wife, who would disembowel her own parents before sending the boys to a private school (goes against everything she believes in etc etc) has no issue in selling the house and buying in a catchment for a "better" school - no matter how I try I can't make her see that it's essentially the same thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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