madwullie Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Not heard much from the good doc Karl sikora lately. Hope he's OK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Binos said: We have Other than construction So we haven't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael W said: Being required by law to wear a mask is quite clearly a restriction. I don't see how that can be up for debate. If people want to keep wearing them then they should be free to do so. Once people vulnerable groups are vaccinated, I don't see the need for continuing to mandate them. Where do you stand on motorcycle helmets? Are they ‘a restriction’? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, G51 said: Lockdown fatigue is real - compliance levels don't feel as high as they used to be (purely anecdotal - don't have any evidence on that one). I think a message of "We're locking down so we can free up essential medical personnel to vaccinate everyone, and we'll lift the restrictions once we hit X number of people vaccinated" would result in people getting behind it though. I must admit Lanarkshire was extremely quiet today on the road to care for my dad. Nowhere near first lockdown levels but much much emptier streets than I'd seen for a long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Binos said: We have Other than construction No, it’s not just construction it’s also manufacturing plus all the related and support businesses. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, G51 said: Lockdown fatigue is real - compliance levels don't feel as high as they used to be (purely anecdotal - don't have any evidence on that one). I think a message of "We're locking down so we can free up essential medical personnel to vaccinate everyone, and we'll lift the restrictions once we hit X number of people vaccinated" would result in people getting behind it though. Well that's what has happened with my wife. Although blood tests etc will still happen, they're now cleared to administer medicine Whether this will be supplemental shifts or during normal working hours I'm not sure yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, MP_MFC said: Bingo. And that's likely how it will go especially with more and more vaccines and various treatments likely to also come down the line. If we are in a position where we need to wear a mask in certain environments to try and add further protection to vulnerable people (remember these vaccines aren't 100% effective... Yet) then it really isnae the beginning of the downward spiral but simply a sensible precaution to allow people to try and carry on with their lives. This “protecting vulnerable people” line really is wearing thin. Up until 10 months ago nobody on here would give a second thought about spreading the cold or flu to the vulnerable which could kill them. Why the difference now? If you’d have told people to put their life on hold for a year and live with restrictions, plus the threat of losing their job (or only existing to go to work) you’d have been laughed at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Binos said: We have Other than construction Have we f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Stupid Maga Americans doing their best to supress the virus. I wonder how many lives would have been saved across the world if Trump had just worn a mask and wasn’t an arsehole covid denier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Where do you stand on motorcycle helmets? Are they ‘a restriction’?Apples and pears mate, riding a motorcycle is a higher risk activity. I’m not debating the effectiveness of masks or refusing to wear one during the pandemic. But having to cover your face by law for no good reason is wrong Lets try this another way, should everyone by law wear a helmet outside regardless of their activities incase they trip on the pavement ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: This “protecting vulnerable people” line really is wearing thin. Up until 10 months ago nobody on here would give a second thought about spreading the cold or flu to the vulnerable which could kill them. Why the difference now? If you’d have told people to put their life on hold for a year and live with restrictions, plus the threat of losing their job (or only existing to go to work) you’d have been laughed at. The difference is covid is neither flu nor a cold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Where do you stand on motorcycle helmets? Are they ‘a restriction’? Probably more effective at reducing transmission of covid than a face mask provided the visor is kept down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I'm all for the concept of 24/7 vaccinations. Unless mine is at 04.30 on a Monday morning in Wetherspoons, Hull. They do a decent breakfast. (© @welshbairn) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: I wonder how many lives would have been saved across the world if Trump had just worn a mask and wasn’t an arsehole covid denier. I think he is getting advised by crazy religous fundamentalists who think it's the end days with plagues and all that shit. The whole swamp stuff is a nod to the antichrists new world order. QAnon are dangerous as f**k and I can see many horrific attacks on the US by homegrown whacky MAGA's in the years to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Lockdown fatigue is real - compliance levels don't feel as high as they used to be (purely anecdotal - don't have any evidence on that one). I think a message of "We're locking down so we can free up essential medical personnel to vaccinate everyone, and we'll lift the restrictions once we hit X number of people vaccinated" would result in people getting behind it though.The first 3 weeks of the march lockdown were very well observed. I think people saw what was going on in other countries who were ahead of us and thought that if they were out the police would be keeping an eye on them with rule breakers stopped, questioned and punished.Those of us who were working and those who were out gettin exercise etc soon realised that no such thing was happening and slowly relaxed and began doing what they wanted within the confines of what was available. They degree of piss taking was down to the individual but only the very unlucky and very stupid got in any bother. By early may folk we’re driving 40 miles to b&m to use the garden centre. Ps i was glad igot up and went early that day cause it was feckin mobbed and any later we’d have came back empty handed ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, madwullie said: The difference is covid is neither flu nor a cold. No, but it kills the elderly/vulnerable like the cold and flu can. My ex worked in a care home and 2 or 3 years ago about 8 residents died within a month because of the flu. Nobody outwith family or friends would care about flu deaths any other year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, G51 said: Lockdown fatigue is real - compliance levels don't feel as high as they used to be (purely anecdotal - don't have any evidence on that one). I think a message of "We're locking down so we can free up essential medical personnel to vaccinate everyone, and we'll lift the restrictions once we hit X number of people vaccinated" would result in people getting behind it though. Truncheon to the face would also work tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, parsforlife said: Truncheon to the face would also work tbf Think the lockdown compliance strategy need a lot more carrot and a lot less stick tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwideJr Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: No, but it kills the elderly/vulnerable like the cold and flu can. My ex worked in a care home and 2 or 3 years ago about 8 residents died within a month because of the flu. Nobody outwith family or friends would care about flu deaths any other year It is genuinely incredible that we are nearly a year into this pandemic and folk are still churning out 'its just like the flu' as an argument. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, G51 said: Think the lockdown compliance strategy need a lot more carrot and a lot less stick tbh. The carrot should have been furlough, but not for staying off work and living the same as anyone else. It should have been conditional on following a strict stay at home order. Taking 1000s out the system and contributing to the spread shouldn’t have been an option. Stay in to help out should have been the scheme we spent on as well. Voluntary system to sign up to avoid pubs/gym etc for a period of time and be payed to do so. Edited January 5, 2021 by parsforlife 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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