Jan Vojáček Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Quote Ross Greer's political career arguable started at the age of 14. That was when he “led a coup” against the sixth years at Bearsden Academy to take control of the eco committee, after the older pupils repeatedly failed to turn up to meetings. https://www.holyrood.com/inside-politics/view,impatient-for-change-interview-with-ross-greer-msp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Elixir said: Sorry for pre-empting Tynierose, but I'd believe the short answer is no. We now already know the base of how these vaccines work and respond in humans, so it should 'just be the case' of re-formulating them. When it's decided what strains to put into the influenza vaccine each year, it doesn't go through fully blown clinical trials as we already know how it works, and there's of course the urgency of it being ready for autumn. thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 As others have pointed out already, using cases as the driving metric is bullshit, and then inference of your post was that if we cant loosen because cases are high, that's the fault of the vaccine, when instead we should be acknowleding that case numbers are becoming irrelevant precisely because the vaccine is wildly exceeding its stated aimsNope no idea where you got that take on it ! I 100% acknowledge the vaccine is reducing cases. I was merely pointing out that based purely on the figs in the puff piece the BBC regurgitated IF (and again in plain English I don't think it should be for the avoidance of doubt) we were to base levels on caseload then the figures quoted should be easily met. That was the one and only point I was making. We should have nowhere above L2 come the end of April based on that table. No need to read anything into it that simply wasn't there.If we are not at those rates before anything is opened up then as I said before something will have changed as all the indications right now are that we will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, super_carson said: No, I know. But my point was more it’s not medical per se. I think a few folk have pointed out that the most prominent advisors aren’t those qualified in virology or epidemiology. Perhaps allowing my frustration to get in the way of the point I’m trying to make. ETA: it’s not that I think her contributions are worthless, clearly she is qualified and her opinion is worth listening to. But I don’t think it should be taken as gospel, and should be weighed up against the opinions of virologists, epidemiologists, economists, socialists, etc. I just feel that, mostly due to MSM, the debate and range of opinions presented have become skewed. It isn’t great when such a big issue like the pandemic appears to be being influenced by a narrow field of experts. Nice try, but you clearly now know you f**ked up by thinking she literally had a Doctorate in Philosophy. Your original post negatively emphasised the word "Philosophy"; if you really were calling into question her credentials relative to the virologists and epidemiologists you speak of (the vast majority of whom will also hold Doctorates of Philosophy), you would have highlighted her actual areas of expertise. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jan Vojáček said: https://www.holyrood.com/inside-politics/view,impatient-for-change-interview-with-ross-greer-msp An absolute head-down-the-pan case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: Nope no idea where you got that take on it ! I 100% acknowledge the vaccine is reducing cases. I was merely pointing out that based purely on the figs in the puff piece the BBC regurgitated IF (and again in plain English I don't think it should be for the avoidance of doubt) we were to base levels on caseload then the figures quoted should be easily met. That was the one and only point I was making. We should have nowhere above L2 come the end of April based on that table. No need to read anything into it that simply wasn't there. If we are not at those rates before anything is opened up then as I said before something will have changed as all the indications right now are that we will be. You’ve done this on several occasions in this thread, so it’s not a surprise to see it again, but the above is essentially saying you disagree with what has been implied will be the ScotGov method of loosening/tightening restrictions, but simultaneously refusing to criticise it in any way. Strange stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Left Back said: Got a link to this? Not all of it. But the substantial meal part is in here https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/01/substantial-meal-policy-may-have-discriminated-against-bame/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Master said: Nice try, but you clearly now know you f**ked up by thinking she literally had a Doctorate in Philosophy. Your original post negatively emphasised the word "Philosophy"; if you really were calling into question her credentials relative to the virologists and epidemiologists you speak of (the vast majority of whom will also hold Doctorates of Philosophy), you would have highlighted her actual areas of expertise. I didn't think she had a doctorate in philosophy, as I did at least have a look at what her specialism was in (anthropology etc.) Granted, worded it like a petulant fanny and will take that on the chin. Edited March 2, 2021 by super_carson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 You’ve done this on several occasions in this thread, so it’s not a surprise to see it again, but the above is essentially saying you disagree with what has been implied will be the ScotGov method of loosening/tightening restrictions, but simultaneously refusing to criticise it in any way. Strange stuff.Sorry if I'm not coming across as Cunty enough in my level of disagreement to satisfy your standards. I won't be amending my form of disagreement to satisfy you or anyone else. Simple solution, Don't read my responses if I don't come up to your exacting standards ! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 45 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 52 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I would hope it would at least make them think twice about imposing similar restrictions. The govt up here has taken the tone of using restrictions as some sort of nationwide naughty step already, and we have seen (didnt you write to the greens over this btw, did you ever get a reply?) Ross Greer showing utter contempt towards football fans as it pertains to restrictions, so I'd have little faith in this summer being different in terms of that sort of tone. I haven't had anything back yet, going to follow up in a couple of days and will basically continue doing so until I hear something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Ross Greer's political career arguable started at the age of 14. That was when he “led a coup” against the sixth years at Bearsden Academy to take control of the eco committee, after the older pupils repeatedly failed to turn up to meetings. https://www.holyrood.com/inside-politics/view,impatient-for-change-interview-with-ross-greer-mspHe must have been bullied in school. If he wasn't, he deserved to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, ICTChris said: If he’s the one I’m thinking of, Ross Greer gives off a very heavy vibe of being in politics to spite the people who were mean to him at school. This proposal makes sense when viewed through this prism. It’s worth saying that this isn’t about him being a Green - the ‘I hate daddy’ pattern is present across political parties. It can be a positive thing as well although it’s more often negative. My mum knows his dad and he definitely gets some of his pomposity from there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56237471 Absolutely no good news here. When we eventually get to the level system in 7 weeks, criteria will be much stricter than last year. As it stands at the moment, very few areas will be moving down to level 2. (Apologies if this was posted already). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 50 per 100,000 for Level 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Interesting those levels are driven by November 2020 guidance by WHO - i.e. prior to vaccine roll outs. Surely no longer relevant? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56237471 Absolutely no good news here. When we eventually get to the level system in 7 weeks, criteria will be much stricter than last year. As it stands at the moment, very few areas will be moving down to level 2. (Apologies if this was posted already). I hate quoting myself, but I'm just reading further through the article. 'The strategic framework document says that weekly case rates and percentage of positive tests will remain core indicators when deciding which level a local authority is placed in'. So not hospitalisation, ICU admittance or deaths then. Case rates. f**k me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Honestly, that's fucking depressing as shit. The Scottish Government have lost all sight of why restrictions are required. We've got a fucking vaccine and we're implementing tighter restrictions. Lost the fucking plot. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Honestly, that's fucking depressing as shit. The Scottish Government have lost all sight of why restrictions are required. We've got a fucking vaccine and we're implementing tighter restrictions. Lost the fucking plot. I also don't see how this is feasible when England is going in a completely different direction. Let's see how people in Scotland react when England has virtually no restrictions and is allowing foreign travel, and half of Scotland is still locked down in Level 3 because we have 51 cases per 100K and virtually no deaths. This is verging on insanity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I'm desperately trying to give myself some hope that they're just being cautious and waiting to find out what a rip-roaring c**t the tousled-hair w****r makes down south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Looks like furlough is going to be extended again, though nothing said about duration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56247455 Probably going to be needed since the levels and tiers are going to take a massive shit on the hospitality and leisure sectors. The good feeling of the last week has evaporated for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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