Boo Khaki Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Penalty is 100% on Kerr IMO. Yes, Hazard clearly misjudges it, but as a defender when you find yourself in a 100% comfortable position to deal with it, as Kerr clearly is initially, you deal with it and clear the danger. You don't listen to the keeper, who, as a human being, is fallible and liable to misjudgement. You get the ball out of there and have it out with him later. Different when it's 50/50 and you're not entirely confident yourself. The Keeper gives you a shout and you defer because it's likely he's more confident than you, has a different perspective, so you trust that he knows what he's doing. Hazard has misjudged it and is never getting there, but Kerr has fucked up even worse by not just dealing with a situation that was 100% within his control to begin with. Blame it on 'Kerr hating' and boo-boys etc, but the simple fact is it's yet another example of exactly why he's miles short of the standard required of a professional footballer of his age and experience. Kerr screws up by not simply making an easy clearance in the first place, and then compounds it by getting in a mess and kicking Moffat afterwards. Hazard's misjudgement is a factor, but the ball should have been 50 yards up the pitch even before Hazard gets any ideas about coming for it. Hazard's shout delays Kerr, but Kerr's lack of assertiveness and assuredness creates a situation where the keeper feels the need to come for it in the first place. Meekings should be reaming Kerr if anything, not the keeper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Girth said: We’re gonna finish pissing 4th aren’t we!? I reckon we're in the mix for anything from 2nd to 4th. I we don't get 4th I'll be a tad disappointed to say the least. Massive difference between 2nd and 3rd/4th so 2nd should be our goal rather than simply top 4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Hazbart said: Yeah Moff definitely offside. Penalty was well struck and a decent save. Other than that doesn’t look like there was much between 2 sides. Really does emphasise how far we’ve come when we’re disappointed with that performance. FTFY. A massive difference between the two. It's not just about results. Perhaps 30 or 40 years ago but not now. The formation and style a team plays and the performance the players put in as a result are ultimately just aesthetics. The success of either or both, simply put, has to come down to the problems you create for the opposition and the chances, generally from open play, that the team creates. In short, I don't actually care how the team's setup, in fact for a variety of reasons, the more versatile we can be the better. We do however need to be more of a threat in the final third. Results aside, we aren't causing the opposition enough problems and that's been our problem for a number of weeks. It could come back to haunt us. We've had two goalless draws at home against 2 misfiring, underperforming Dundee teams and barely laid a glove from open play on either. Let's get that in a bit of context. On its own merits neither is a bad result but let's be a bit more open minded and look a bit deeper as to what actually got us those results. Draws at home generally emphasise the need to win the next batch of games away from home. Never easy, but especially in this league. In addition to the above too many players are having form and/or attitude dips at the business end of the season. Burnout, glances elsewhere? Perhaps, probably. Not what you want at a time when building momentum and form can ultimately reap the club, players and fans, massive rewards that for us don't come around often, if at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Penalty is 100% on Kerr IMO. Yes, Hazard clearly misjudges it, but as a defender when you find yourself in a 100% comfortable position to deal with it, as Kerr clearly is initially, you deal with it and clear the danger. You don't listen to the keeper, who, as a human being, is fallible and liable to misjudgement. You get the ball out of there and have it out with him later. What species is Cammy Kerr? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Are my eyes deceiving me or was Forrests shot on the counter from six yards goal bound until the ball took a horrendous bobble on the pitch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 FTFY. A massive difference between the two. It's not just about results. Perhaps 30 or 40 years ago but not now. The formation and style a team plays and the performance the players put in as a result are ultimately just aesthetics. The success of either or both, simply put, has to come down to the problems you create for the opposition and the chances, generally from open play, that the team creates. In short, I don't actually care how the team's setup, in fact for a variety of reasons, the more versatile we can be the better. We do however need to be more of a threat in the final third. Results aside, we aren't causing the opposition enough problems and that's been our problem for a number of weeks. It could come back to haunt us. We've had two goalless draws at home against 2 misfiring, underperforming Dundee teams and barely laid a glove from open play on either. Let's get that in a bit of context. On its own merits neither is a bad result but let's be a bit more open minded and look a bit deeper as to what actually got us those results. Draws at home generally emphasise the need to win the next batch of games away from home. Never easy, but especially in this league. In addition to the above too many players are having form and/or attitude dips at the business end of the season. Burnout, glances elsewhere? Perhaps, probably. Not what you want at a time when building momentum and form can ultimately reap the club, players and fans, massive rewards that for us don't come around often, if at all. You’re conveniently ignoring the Alloa game to suit your argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: You’re conveniently ignoring the Alloa game to suit your argument. The standard of the surface is definitely having an impact on our style of play. However, you need to be able to adapt to the conditions. I'd say we've done that better under Kerr than McCall. We would be on a winless run just now if the media luvie were still in charge. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, itzdrk said: What species is Cammy Kerr? Lizard like. Born into the Dundee family and some folk just can't not like him, no matter what he does. Privileged. Edited March 8, 2020 by Dele 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Lizard like. Born into the Dundee family and some folk just can't not like him, no matter what he does. Privileged. This is true , you also get the types that no matter what he does , good or bad, they still hate him.I find this with McGowan also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I think he is referring to the Arbroath fan with the issue with rainbow laces.Warnings for both set of fans ? I believe this happened and wasnt just one Arbroath fanHowever I believe you have moved over and had no more threads banned which is good news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Warnings for both set of fans ? I believe this happened and wasnt just one Arbroath fanHowever I believe you have moved over and had no more threads banned which is good news It was fully instigated by one arbroath fan who was being clearly homophobic. Some ayr fans probably went too far in their response but in general it was not a case of 'both were equally to blame'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 It was fully instigated by one arbroath fan who was being clearly homophobic. Some ayr fans probably went too far in their response but in general it was not a case of 'both were equally to blame'. Some ayr fans managed to get the thread closed aswell as the one homophobic arbroath fan ?So both played a part 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Some ayr fans managed to get the thread closed aswell as the one homophobic arbroath fan ?So both played a part For all we know the Ayr and Arbroath 'fans' could have been Dundee or Chelsea fans in disguise.Can happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, No_Problemo said: You’re conveniently ignoring the Alloa game to suit your argument. Not at all. If you read my post properly I've said that it's not just about the results. The performance at Alloa was far from convincing despite the result. We're sleepwalking towards the end of the season and anybody who thinks otherwise, based on the current showings, is kidding themselves on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Don’t really get the negativity towards yesterday’s result if I’m honest. While it’s obviously frustrating to miss a penalty (great save btw) I’d probably have took a draw before hand on the understanding we will go up to Dens and at least get a point. Results again on the whole went our way. Matched Pars, Morton and Arbroath’s result and pulled a point closer to Caley. If were still Also loads of the usual suspects on the SRE page saying Muirhead shouldn’t of hit the penalty and it should of been an attacker clearly unaware of Muirhead hitting penalties his whole career and having a very good record from the spot. I haven’t watched the highlights back but it looked like a decent penalty and an excellent save. On to Tuesday. Edited March 8, 2020 by ayrunitedfw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: Don’t really get the negativity towards yesterday’s result if I’m honest. While it’s obviously frustrating to miss a penalty (great save btw) I’d probably have took a draw before hand on the understanding we will go up to Dens and at least get a point. Results again on the whole went our way. Matched Pars, Morton and Arbroath’s result and pulled a point closer to Caley. If were still Also loads of the usual suspects on the SRE page saying Muirhead shouldn’t of hit the penalty and it should of been an attacker clearly unaware of Muirhead hitting penalties his whole career and having a very good record from the spot. I haven’t watched the highlights back but it looked like a decent penalty and an excellent save. On to Tuesday. If Forrest isn't available then there isn't many players aside Murihead I'd be confident in giving penalty duties too. If he's off them now he's missed one then we're struggling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 If it makes any difference, Hazard says the penalty was 100% his fault in the post match interview. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitbafollower Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 He hit a decent penalty a very good save from the big goalie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Was at an easy height. Top corner is the way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 We did next to nothing in that second half. If Ayr had nicked it it would be all we deserved. Ayrs ground makes me think I have tuned in to Sunday Scotsport, waiting for the Bob Crampsie Files. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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