haufdaft Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I agree with their main point. But what League 1 sides are being sent down? They’ll still be in League 1!! I think you should have just typed "I'm alright Jack" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Getting the impression that the primary worry of some Clyde fans is that their team are more likely to end up leaving a new bottom division by the trapdoor than the skylight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Genuine questions for Clyde fans. All else aside do you like the set up of leagues of 10 that means playing teams 4 times? What would be your ideal league set up?What do most fans want?Bigger leagues, more variety, not playing teams 4 (plus) times a season.It’s well documented why the premier league can’t/won’t expand but that doesn’t apply to lower leagues.Could easily have any of these models next season:14-16-1414-18-1214-20-10Or we could go 14-10-10-10 temporarily next season which doesn’t disadvantage anyone and actually put some thought into the best option longer term, without having it led by self interest.Basing it on current standings is always going to be tricky. Why not come up with a suitable model and give teams a season to play for position in the hierarchy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Getting the impression that the primary worry of some Clyde fans is that their team are more likely to end up leaving a new bottom division by the trapdoor than the skylight I'm getting the impression that teams untouched by this proposal don't care.Although if there was any suggestion any change would effect their team negatively they would be outraged at it's unfairness.Watch as Hearts, Thistle, Stranraer all vote for this proposal.How can they claim putting Clyde etc into the bottom league is fairer than their poor teams being relegated on merit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Scottydog said: Genuine questions for Clyde fans. All else aside do you like the set up of leagues of 10 that means playing teams 4 times? What would be your ideal league set up? No. I would prefer larger leagues as a principle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, haufdaft said: I'm getting the impression that teams untouched by this proposal don't care. Although if there was any suggestion any change would effect their team negatively they would be outraged at it's unfairness. Watch as Hearts, Thistle, Stranraer all vote for this proposal. How can they claim putting Clyde etc into the bottom league is fairer than their poor teams being relegated on merit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Getting the impression that the primary worry of some Clyde fans is that their team are more likely to end up leaving a new bottom division by the trapdoor than the skylight Its called being risk averse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 No. I would prefer larger leagues as a principle. I’ve got to be honest here guys, after you lot going on about your three World Cup wins against us this season I would be a little amused.That said, I don’t think it will....or should...happen... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Genuine questions for Clyde fans. All else aside do you like the set up of leagues of 10 that means playing teams 4 times? What would be your ideal league set up?Personally speaking I see the current set up at the best.Playing the same teams 4 times a year can be a bit tedious.However the smaller leagues means most games are important for championship/playoff or relegation positions.Bigger leagues mean more meaningless matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Anyone who doesn’t want to use current standings to decide promotion/relegation but does want to use current standings to decide alignment in a reconstructed league is a total hypocrite 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, roman_bairn said: I’ve got to be honest here guys, after you lot going on about your three World Cup wins against us this season I would be a little amused. That said, I don’t think it will....or should...happen... If we had squeezed in the 4th game before the virus this might have all been a moot point I wish I had your optimism or faith in the decision makers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 If we had squeezed in the 4th game before the virus this might have all been a moot point [emoji1] I wish I had your optimism or faith in the decision makers. I think when they get round to discussing the split of cash with the Premiership teams, it’ll start to unravel.Could be wrong, just my expectations..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, ribzanelli said: Anyone who doesn’t want to use current standings to decide promotion/relegation but does want to use current standings to decide alignment in a reconstructed league is a total hypocrite People only seem to have these principles if the changes don't benefit their own club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, C. Muir said: Possibly. I just don't understand why, if Airdrie were in the position, their fans would be happy with the prospect of being put into the bottom tier when they're not currently. Especially when this proposal doesn't relegate teams who are actually bottom of their leagues. It's not the bottom tier. It's tier 3, which is where you are now. I don't support these proposals but Clyde fans saying it's relegation for them isn't exactly true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, CALDERON said: People only seem to have these principles if the changes don't benefit their own club. The Clyde situation certainly shows how regardless of what happens at least one team will be disadvantaged. It's not hard to see why Clyde and their fans are concerned. They're going to lose out on potential revenue from Falkirk and Partick Thistle to go back to facing mediocre crowds from Edinburgh City, Annan and Elgin. Certainly seems to be easier to try harder for a club with a 16,000 average attendance compared to one with a sub 1000 average attendance. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolfo Rios Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Moonster said: It's not the bottom tier. It's tier 3, which is where you are now. I don't support these proposals but Clyde fans saying it's relegation for them isn't exactly true. Whilst the term relegation is perhaps not exactly true as you say, the outcomes of a normal relegation are what we would be on the end of if this was to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 It's not the bottom tier. It's tier 3, which is where you are now. I don't support these proposals but Clyde fans saying it's relegation for them isn't exactly true.So if the proposed tier 3 isn't the bottom tier, what is the bottom tier? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 The Clyde situation certainly shows how regardless of what happens at least one team will be disadvantaged. It's not hard to see why Clyde and their fans are concerned. They're going to lose out on potential revenue from Falkirk and Partick Thistle to go back to facing mediocre crowds from Edinburgh City, Annan and Elgin. Certainly seems to be easier to try harder for a club with a 16,000 average attendance compared to one with a sub 1000 average attendance. Isn’t it the teams in League 2 that are pushing for this rather than the teams in the Premiership?… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Isn’t it the teams in League 2 that are pushing for this rather than the teams in the Premiership?…It is, but Stirling made it clear in their statement that they're looking to close shop and take away the pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestman54 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, haufdaft said: 19 minutes ago, The Moonster said: It's not the bottom tier. It's tier 3, which is where you are now. I don't support these proposals but Clyde fans saying it's relegation for them isn't exactly true. So if the proposed tier 3 isn't the bottom tier, what is the bottom tier? Tier 4 - LL and HL, tier 5 EOS, SOS and the new WOS leagues!!!! Edited April 28, 2020 by honestman54 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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