glensmad Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Or the other big clubs who ground share like Queen of the South/Heston RoversThe Lowland League chairman's own club BSC Glasgow have always ground shared. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Referee021 said: The release of fixtures is a challenging scenario. If you take into consideration how many teams ground shared in the old west juniors, it surely must be far higher than that of any comparable Sos, LL, HL & Eos leagues. Alloa (SPFL)/BSC (LL) Spartans (LL)/Edinburgh City (SPFL), Cumbernauld Colts (LL)/Clyde (SPFL), East Stirlingshire (LL)/Falkirk (SPFL) Stirling University (LL)/Stirling Albion (SPFL) I think are the current arrangements in the LL. Plus a variety of others previously. It always gets managed. It will probably be easier to arrange as most of the groundshares within the WoSFL are self contained to the one league body. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The release of fixtures is a challenging scenario. If you take into consideration how many teams ground shared in the old west juniors, it surely must be far higher than that of any comparable Sos, LL, HL & Eos leagues. Perhaps this will be a key consideration for how the 4 new divisions are formed. However, within one season that could all be up in the air and end up with a top division with at least 3 clubs ground sharing as they have no ground of their own, which I find completely unacceptable and ought to be mandated by the new league as an issue which must be addressed. It is relatively straight forward for one of the teams to be given a home game and the other an away. There is also the ability to play on other days, like some LL clubs have done, either Friday night (if a ground with lights) or a Sunday.There are multiple ways to manage a groundshare. I'm not sure whats unacceptable about it, clubs have managed these things for years, as have fixture secretaries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) The only issue I have with groundsharing is when ye end up like a situation Gretna/Motherwell had where it just ruined the pitch and led to cancellations and call offs which affected the fixtures for both sides toward the season's end. But aren't all those groundshares listed on astroturf pitches? Even if the fixtures come out with both clubs at home on the same weekend one can be pushed back to the Sunday or Friday night easily enough. Edited April 21, 2020 by AsimButtHitsASix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The only issue I have with groundsharing is when ye end up like a situation Gretna/Motherwell had where it just ruined the pitch and led to cancellations and call offs which affected the fixtures for both sides toward the season's end. But aren't all those groundshares listed on astroturf pitches? Even if the fixtures come out with both clubs at home on the same weekend one can be pushed back to the Sunday or Friday night easily enough.Or even back to back games to give the four sets of supporters a bonus.If it's ok for Celtic to ground share with Queen's Park for a while, then I'm sure it's ok at WoSFL level too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, glensmad said: Or even back to back games to give the four sets of supporters a bonus. If it's ok for Celtic to ground share with Queen's Park for a while, then I'm sure it's ok at WoSFL level too. Always wondered why back to back home games isn't done more often. If Greenock Juniors shared with Morton at Cappielow for a year I don't think I'd stick around for their game every weekend but I might do every now and then (presuming I could nip out to the Norseman for a pint inbetween). Ye'd imagine it would be beneficial to the smaller team. ETA: I might be more keen on it for away days. If I'm paying to go down to Dumfries or through to Alloa for the day I might decide two games is better value Edited April 21, 2020 by AsimButtHitsASix 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referee021 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It doesn’t give great strength to an argument to compare to Italy. We’re in Scotland and we’re concerned for the Scottish game. Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. It is not as simple as having one team play away and the other at home the following week. To infer that it is that simple is quite simply laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It doesn’t give great strength to an argument to compare to Italy. We’re in Scotland and we’re concerned for the Scottish game. Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. It is not as simple as having one team play away and the other at home the following week. To infer that it is that simple is quite simply laughable. In your opinion. Not in mine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Referee021 said: Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. Which clubs see ground sharing as the de facto norm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It doesn’t give great strength to an argument to compare to Italy. We’re in Scotland and we’re concerned for the Scottish game. Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. It is not as simple as having one team play away and the other at home the following week. To infer that it is that simple is quite simply laughable. Aye ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Referee021 said: The release of fixtures is a challenging scenario. If you take into consideration how many teams ground shared in the old west juniors, it surely must be far higher than that of any comparable Sos, LL, HL & Eos leagues. Perhaps this will be a key consideration for how the 4 new divisions are formed. However, within one season that could all be up in the air and end up with a top division with at least 3 clubs ground sharing as they have no ground of their own, which I find completely unacceptable and ought to be mandated by the new league as an issue which must be addressed. When preparing fixtures clubs are paired up so one is home and the other away on the same day e.g. the OF. It's standard practice throughout sport not just football. I'm all for ground sharing. It's a fuller use of the facilities which are available instead of having them standing idle every other Saturday. Many clubs in lots of sports do this even if it's sharing with the reserves or amateurs or youth. Why not use it to allow more clubs to play at the highest level they can achieve e.g. more clubs moving up to the pyramid leagues if they wish to? Edited April 21, 2020 by Dev . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Highland League farce will need to be dealt with long term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Referee021 said: It doesn’t give great strength to an argument to compare to Italy. We’re in Scotland and we’re concerned for the Scottish game. Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. It is not as simple as having one team play away and the other at home the following week. To infer that it is that simple is quite simply laughable. I think you mean imply and groundsharing is here to stay so you had better get used to it Edited April 21, 2020 by BANKIEBILL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ped Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I actually think if the 2 teams are from the same town or city I think groundsharing is a great way forward for alot of areas I think its when teams ground share miles outwith there town or area 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It doesn’t give great strength to an argument to compare to Italy. We’re in Scotland and we’re concerned for the Scottish game. Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. It is not as simple as having one team play away and the other at home the following week. To infer that it is that simple is quite simply laughable. And your experience of managing a groundshare, fixturing around a groundshare and any other associated potential issues is what exactly?Obviously you must have said experience to make the point laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Tutankhamen said: Highland League farce will need to be dealt with long term. There are talks going on between the HFL, NCL & NRJFA. The latter is rumoured to not be in a hurry at all whilst the HFL seems to be willing to introduce relegation. What more can the HFL do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, glensmad said: Or even back to back games to give the four sets of supporters a bonus. If it's ok for Celtic to ground share with Queen's Park for a while, then I'm sure it's ok at WoSFL level too. It actually wasn't ok, it was part of the great conspiracy against Celtic, and therefore bad. Very bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Referee021 said: It doesn’t give great strength to an argument to compare to Italy. We’re in Scotland and we’re concerned for the Scottish game. Ground sharing should be a temporary solution to the issue, not the de facto norm. It is not as simple as having one team play away and the other at home the following week. To infer that it is that simple is quite simply laughable. How's it no'? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 How's it no'?Much better than my retort [emoji1] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Marten said: There are talks going on between the HFL, NCL & NRJFA. The latter is rumoured to not be in a hurry at all whilst the HFL seems to be willing to introduce relegation. What more can the HFL do? Dissolve -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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