carpetmonster Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Have the police responded to the fact that they just let this guy walk down the street? That's pretty incredible, when some of the police forces are at least attempting to engage in a more positive way with the protesters (or at least some were back in the original protests). Were they openly taking the side of the armed vigilantes in this cases? Whenever we've had those embarrassing wee far right demos in recent years in Britain, i usually get the impression the police over here are more sympathetic to the anti-fascist counter-demos that always massively outnumber them. Or am i giving our forces more credit than they deserve? The reaction on that video when he walks right up to them with his rifle is fucking mind-blowing when compared to how they react to armed, and even unarmed black men. How have they justified that? Not yet and after his last round of victim-blaming I’d bet the Kenosha police chief won’t be responding to any calls for quotes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Have the police responded to the fact that they just let this guy walk down the street? That's pretty incredible, when some of the police forces are at least attempting to engage in a more positive way with the protesters (or at least some were back in the original protests). Were they openly taking the side of the armed vigilantes in this cases? Whenever we've had those embarrassing wee far right demos in recent years in Britain, i usually get the impression the police over here are more sympathetic to the anti-fascist counter-demos that always massively outnumber them. Or am i giving our forces more credit than they deserve? The reaction on that video when he walks right up to them with his rifle is fucking mind-blowing when compared to how they react to armed, and even unarmed black men. How have they justified that? I've seen two videos of him approaching the police, and both times I can understand the police. In the first one (Its before the incident) he walks up to the police and he's controlling the weapon in what would be considered a safe manner, he's talking to the police and generally not being a threat. It's fucking mental but apparently you're allowed to walk around with a gun over there, it's fucking crazy. In the second one after the incident, he walks down the street with his hands raised and again holding the weapon safely, the police are rushing to the incident but AFAIK they weren't aware at that time he was the belter responsible. Once that became evident he was then arrested. America is a mess, it fucking baffles me that they consider the right to bear arms a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, ali_91 said: What’s your thoughts on Jack Merritt? Or Abdul Aziz Wahabzada in New Zealand. What an idiot! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Whenever we've had those embarrassing wee far right demos in recent years in Britain, i usually get the impression the police over here are more sympathetic to the anti-fascist counter-demos that always massively outnumber them. Or am i giving our forces more credit than they deserve?Ehh I’m not really sure. More sympathetic than the US police maybe but not positively disposed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Is it not a broken bottle with a rag in it? Nah, if it was a broken bottle then it would've actually went somewhere, it instead got thrown about 10 yards. Due to it being a bag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, Grant228 said: I've seen two videos of him approaching the police, and both times I can understand the police. In the first one (Its before the incident) he walks up to the police and he's controlling the weapon in what would be considered a safe manner, he's talking to the police and generally not being a threat. It's fucking mental but apparently you're allowed to walk around with a gun over there, it's fucking crazy. In the second one after the incident, he walks down the street with his hands raised and again holding the weapon safely, the police are rushing to the incident but AFAIK they weren't aware at that time he was the belter responsible. Once that became evident he was then arrested. America is a mess, it fucking baffles me that they consider the right to bear arms a good thing. He managed to leave the scene and get home - it was polis in Illinois that picked him up. He’s been charged in Illinois and I think he’s due to appear in Wisconsin tomorrow when the extradition paperwork’s been completed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I think all this proves is that more people need skateboards. A good guy with a skateboard will stop a bad guy with a skateboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I think all this proves is that more people need skateboards. A good guy with on a skateboard will stop a bad guy with a skateboard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 H_B This. Wild that folk actually debate him. Did they never experience Misc Other Fitba when he ruined endless threads with Supras? Best just laughed at and ignored thereafter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: 2 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: H_B This. Wild that folk actually debate him. Did they never experience Misc Other Fitba when he ruined endless threads with Supras? Best just laughed at and ignored thereafter. He's good at getting people to twist themselves into contortions particularly on SNP/ indy related stuff but less is more in this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, NotThePars said: He's good at getting people to twist themselves into contortions particularly on SNP/ indy related stuff but less is more in this case. His growth commission schtick is getting increasingly tedious as well tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 This was posted on a facebook page for police officers and their supporters. How ingrained is racism in law enforcement? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: This was posted on a facebook page for police officers and their supporters. How ingrained is racism in law enforcement? Those aren't real disabled spaces. The X3 is missing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Detournement out for lunch with the kids... "The guy obviously has anger issues. But you can't say that the waitress who spilled his coffee and can't do her job right made smart decisions." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Can only feel a mixture of amusement and utter dismay at these total wankstains in their army surplus. The only purpose of a military style rifle is to maim and kill human beings. These fools argue it's 'for protection', yet the only people who oppose them are largely anti-gun and don't arm themselves as a matter of routine. Self-proclaimed 'greatest country in the world', where it's perfectly commonplace to arm yourself to the tits with military equipment, to protect yourself from other arseholes who are a wee bit too obsessed with weapons and 'rights'. Someone really needs to just stand up and take these fuckers arms away from them, even if it requires military force to disarm them. There are no bears, native indians, wolves, etc coming to plunder your homestead and make off with your firstborn, so get this 'right to bear arms' shit into the sea. Save these fucking lunatics from themselves. If anyone actually tried to get their guns off of them they'd fight to the death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I agree this Kyle Rittenhouse lad has just been a bit daft. All he had to do was go through his police training and get his badge before shooting those black lads then everything would have been fine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Falcor Roar said: I agree this Kyle Rittenhouse lad has just been a bit daft. All he had to do was go through his police training and get his badge before shooting those black lads then everything would have been fine. "He didn't go in to do him, he just mistimed it. He's not that sort of player." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I don't know if it's just the way it gets reported but I get the impression the police over here spend a lot of effort infiltrating environmental groups compared to fascists.I think these far right, neo-Nazi groups are all infiltrated to bursting point. Half the members are probably cops or informants in some of them.Also, I can’t see any policemen forming committed romantic relationships and having children with the members of C18 while undercover, although maybe I need to be more open minded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Here’s a Twitter thread about the shooting from a New York Times reporter who has analysed a number of live streams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Falcor Roar said: I agree this Kyle Rittenhouse lad has just been a bit daft. All he had to do was go through his police training and get his badge before shooting those black lads then everything would have been fine. Someone on twitter arguing that he isn't a white supremacist because the people he shot weren't black. The depths to which people will stoop to feel like they're winning an argument are pretty grim. "Just answer me this - what race were the people he shot. Discussion over: period" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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