The Moonster Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 hours ago, pandarilla said: But he also writes brilliant lyrics. Anyone who has given it a proper listen and doesn't rate his lyrics is probably worth ignoring completely. Yes he's tapped into a niche neddy market (here we, here we, here we fucking go) - but if you can't see past that then you're probably being a snob. He's writing from a perspective that doesn't get any positive attention in society (the so called underclass), and he's doing it very well. I'm not really up for subjecting myself to more songs of Cinnamon to witness this excellent perspective of the so called underclass, could you give me a short example of what you mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The reason that Sheeran, Capaldi, GC, Ezra etc get such a response is because the concept of a pop star has completely changed since social media started. Back in the old days pop stars were people like Prince, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Kate Bush, Bowie who were huge charismatic figures who weren't at all relatable but were aspirational. Their fans wanted to be like but them but knew never would be. Ed Sheeran fans are so boring that their icon is someone just as boring as them. It's a completely different mindset. The aim is for everything to be as homogeneous as possible. Has capaldi done enough to be compared to sheeran, and even George ezra.They've both been very successful over a number of years.I'm maybe being really harsh on capaldi but is other stuff really breaking through? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I'm not really up for subjecting myself to more songs of Cinnamon to witness this excellent perspective of the so called underclass, could you give me a short example of what you mean?I'm currently in a queue for a recycling tip but I might do this later.Surely there's a gerry cinnamon thread though, so I'd stick it there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: I'm currently in a queue for a recycling tip but I might do this later. Surely there's a gerry cinnamon thread though, so I'd stick it there. No worries, happy for you to post it wherever you feel best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: Sounds like a fair enough assertion, although I wonder if shows like The X Factor are more to blame for the shift than social media. I think the appeal of the reality shows was all about the cruelty in rejecting contenstants. That moment has passed though. This is a good article about that https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/06/the-blair-show The popularity of Capaldi is down to the Like Button culture where a generation of young people have been conditioned to desire constant validation from their peers via social media. The easiest way to do that is to conform in a non threatening way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Detournement said: I think the appeal of the reality shows was all about the cruelty in rejecting contenstants. That moment has passed though. This is a good article about that https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/06/the-blair-show The popularity of Capaldi is down to the Like Button culture where a generation of young people have been conditioned to desire constant validation from their peers via social media. The easiest way to do that is to conform in a non threatening way. Good read that, ta for that. Was more wondering if the non-threatening milquetoast pop star cultivation started on shows like that; nice, safe, mass-market "look at me I'm just like the plebs" appeal manufactured by Simon Cowell (with all the tragic backstory tropes that it inspired), and now social media is driving that even more. Edited July 7, 2020 by Thistle_do_nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 This topic is a bit like middle aged men getting annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Capaldi writes and sings horrendous music however when your song is parodied by Alicia Keys at the most watched television award show on the planet you must be doing something right. I was subjected to Cinnamon at Trnsmt where it seemed that everyone around me knew every word to every shitty song he sang which concerned the f**k out of me. I know who I would prefer to go for a pint with and I think in the grand scheme of things is all that really matters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said: This topic is a bit like middle aged men getting annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Capaldi writes and sings horrendous music however when your song is parodied by Alicia Keys at the most watched television award show on the planet you must be doing something right. I was subjected to Cinnamon at Trnsmt where it seemed that everyone around me knew every word to every shitty song he sang which concerned the f**k out of me. I know who I would prefer to go for a pint with and I think in the grand scheme of things is all that really matters. I'd rather go on my own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I'd rather go on my own. No doubt so would they 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe Terrapin said: No doubt so would they Then we'll all be happy...I say happy, I mean sitting for hours regretting missed opportunities and a lifetime of poor decision making, but you know what I mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Would happily go for a coffee with Alicia Keys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Would happily go for a coffee with Alicia Keys. She's definitely not the ugliest woman on the planet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Would happily go for a coffee with Alicia Keys. You would need three chairs, one for you and one for each of her arsecheeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said: You would need three chairs, one for you and one for each of her arsecheeks. He wouldn't need a seat, he'd be shouting through from lavvy after another helping of raw chicken. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: He wouldn't need a seat, he'd be shouting through from lavvy after another helping of raw chicken. You’ll be glad to know it’s now working its way out of my system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said: You would need three chairs, one for you and one for each of her arsecheeks. You mean you’d rather take Greta for a pint? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Alicia Keyes is one of the finest female specimen to walk this Earth. V v close to perfection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: You mean you’d rather take Greta for a pint? Alicia is gorgeous but you must admit her arse is in danger of becoming the 51st State. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engelbert_humperdink Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 As others have said, no time for his music which imo is pish. But in the world of egotistical celebrities, he is a breath of fresh west lothian air 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 8 hours ago, pandarilla said: Wait, there are genuinely folk that rate capaldi and don't rate cinnamon? And just to be clear I'm taking about the music they produce, nothing to do with the type of person they are, or how annoying their fans are. Just the quality of the music. You think capaldi is better? f**k me. I’m not sure what you mean by “quality of the music” but Lewis Capaldi is undoubtably a better singer than Gerry Cinnamon. Is Lewis Capaldi “better”, better at what exactly? I’m not a massive fan of either of their music, but Capaldi has been the more successful, regardless of how much it pains you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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