topcat(The most tip top) Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 With Hindsight we should have started planning for a successor as soon as he cut his hair short 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ric said: Never mind, if you are going to double down, I can't be fucked arguing with you. My point still stands though, it's a gamble that has very little return to it, as there is no absolutely no way you can guarantee a new manager will do better. I'm no even trying to argue tbh. I'm saying 3rd is worth millions of pounds to us, as it is to Aberdeen or St Mirren if they make it. That's all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: Aw nawwww We need to get Barry Robson signed up permanently now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: You get about £3m European money simply by finishing 3rd, then you add in getting 4 home games which, for them, would be 4 sell outs. Add in ~£400k for any win and ~£200k for any draw. Which is relying on finishing 3rd and factoring in a decent gate money too. So not a guarantee, more just a ball park figure. Not that I am saying there's not a lot of money to be had from European competition. Less so when nipping off to Luxemburg for a qualifier, mind, more so when entertaining Madrid at home. In fact the amount of money at the sharp end is primarily why we have such a duopoly in this country. 3 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: I'm no even trying to argue tbh. I'm saying 3rd is worth millions of pounds to us, as it is to Aberdeen or St Mirren if they make it. That's all It's all cool, just felt the topic was all about the league position and the possible money for that, not the extended sojourn to sunnier climes. 1 minute ago, Tony Wonder said: And as for the 2nd point, it's a gamble to do it now. But the atmosphere was toxic and it wasn't going to improve with him there. Yeah, 'you pays your money and you takes your choice', as I say I feel this is more about season tickets for Budge than it is about performance. Edited April 9, 2023 by Ric 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ric said: Never mind, if you are going to double down, I can't be fucked arguing with you. My point still stands though, it's a gamble that has very little return to it, as there is no absolutely no way you can guarantee a new manager will do better. And as for the 2nd point, it's a gamble to do it now. But the atmosphere was toxic and it wasn't going to improve with him there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ric said: Never mind, if you are going to double down, I can't be fucked arguing with you. My point still stands though, it's a gamble that has very little return to it, as there is no absolutely no way you can guarantee a new manager will do better. well of course If the results were guaranteed it wouldn’t be a gamble keeping him and hoping his luck would turn around would have been a gamble sacking him and hoping that shaking things up improves things is a gamble unfortunately if you run a professional sports team then you can’t escape the fact that large amounts of revenue can appear or disappear on the bounce of a ball so gambling is unavoidable although I’m sure club boards would prefer to call it a calculated risk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, HibsFan said: Levein’s protege meeting with a similar ending as Hearts manager. ZERO major trophies won. ZERO impact in Europe. Unfortunately the dodgy penalties and outrageous luck had to run out at some point. Bring on their third relegation in a decade, please! That'll be the same as almost any given manager for a non-OF club over the last few decades, then. Overall Neilson did a good job over both spells, but he's limited and he's stopped getting anything out of the squad, so this is (surprisingly) the correct decision. When he's not even beating St Mirren at home, which is basically his main attribute, he's not much use. Unfortunately past evidence shows there's no guarantee we'll be able to replace him with better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ric said: Which is relying on finishing 3rd and factoring in a decent gate money too. So not a guarantee, more just a ball park figure. Yeah, ive no idea what youre waffling about with the rest of your post tbh. All i was agreeing with was that 3rd to 5th to Hearts is realistically a £6m drop considering theyll have made that figure alone from Europe this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I really wish folk would stop posting that 3rd place guarantees European Group stage football. It doesn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Yeah, ive no idea what youre waffling about with the rest of your post tbh. Your intelligence, or lack of it, really is no concern of mine, "tbh" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: I really wish folk would stop posting that 3rd place guarantees European Group stage football. It doesn't. ..but that means it doesn't guarantee you £6m either. Shocking, if true! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: I really wish folk would stop posting that 3rd place guarantees European Group stage football. It doesn't. One of the OF is clearly winning the Scottish Cup this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Good to see the resident waffler make a pRic of himself, yet again. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ric said: Your intelligence, or lack of it, really is no concern of mine, "tbh" Nah its just you, as always, having a different conversation than the person youre speaking to just so you can dredge everything out over 10 posts when 2 could do to try and claim youre right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:OF is clearly winning the Scottish Cup this season. The manky green side id say 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 This always feels relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, kingjoey said: I really wish folk would stop posting that 3rd place guarantees European Group stage football. It doesn't. While technically true, the only way it doesn't is if one of the greatest Scottish Cup shocks of all time occurs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 The real banter appointment has to be Aberdeen announcing Robbie Neilson as their new manager IMHAHOWY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, kingjoey said: I really wish folk would stop posting that 3rd place guarantees European Group stage football. It doesn't. For that matter 4th doesn’t exclude the possibility of European Group stage football either 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 08/04/2023 at 17:03, Dons_1988 said: Who was the st Mirren fan crying that they weren’t being talked about for 3rd? Because they’ve certainly earned their place in the conversation. You called??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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