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Well beaten by a decent Hearts team.  They seemed much better after they went 2-1 down and Naismith came on.  Our defence still looks poor and we struggled to get & keep possession in midfield.  Pleased to get the 3 goals though.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Richey Edwards said:

Yeah, I don't believe Kerr has had a fair crack at the job yet. He took over part way into last season which was eventually curtailed due to COVID. If we were in the relegation fight going into February then it would probably be in the interests of the club to do something about it, but not yet.

To nip this pish in the bud, Kerr inherited a team that had been top of the league and playing some of the best football in the league.  Within 3 months, he’d reduced us to a rudderless mess scrapping for the occasional 1-0 win with the same group of players which he had the opportunity to strengthen in January.  It’s clear that the board have backed him with the funds to bring a decent standard of player to the club, so he hasn’t got that as an excuse.  If people want to continue to back Kerr, so be it, but back room changes are needed urgently.

 

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4 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

There have been enough positive signs to convince me that we won't fall that far.

We went on a run of clean sheets not so long ago - and the fact that we've went to Tynecastle and scored 3 goals is a good sign. We clearly showed some fight in this game, even though we capitulated.

We also won quite convincingly against alloa not too long ago so i think we've got enough about us to not become a part of any relegation fight.

We showed some fight even though we capitulated?

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To nip this pish in the bud, Kerr inherited a team that had been top of the league and playing some of the best football in the league.  Within 3 months, he’d reduced us to a rudderless mess scrapping for the occasional 1-0 win with the same group of players which he had the opportunity to strengthen in January.  It’s clear that the board have backed him with the funds to bring a decent standard of player to the club, so he hasn’t got that as an excuse.  If people want to continue to back Kerr, so be it, but back room changes are needed urgently.
 
Hard to disagree with this
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To nip this pish in the bud, Kerr inherited a team that had been top of the league and playing some of the best football in the league.  Within 3 months, he’d reduced us to a rudderless mess scrapping for the occasional 1-0 win with the same group of players which he had the opportunity to strengthen in January.  It’s clear that the board have backed him with the funds to bring a decent standard of player to the club, so he hasn’t got that as an excuse.  If people want to continue to back Kerr, so be it, but back room changes are needed urgently.
 
Way over the top.

Mccall did a great job for us but you're massively overplaying his final season with us. Yes we were top four a short time but we also fell down the league in the new year (something that happened regularly worth him in charge).

We also lost some key players to that team, and that's never easy (and i think was a factor in Mccall leaving).

Kerr has had to deal with absolute carnage in terms of covid. On top of that he's managed to bring in some very impressive signings - and there has been some good results.
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HMIP needs a wee lie down, talk about revisionist nonsense. I've seen some drivel posted in my time but that takes the biscuit.

ETA - McCall's teams at this level routinely couldn't string two results together from December to April. 

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14 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

I didn't know that but was just about to post that we absolutely shouldn't be spending that money on signings. The money is to keep the club going, which is far more important than our current defensive woes (as bad as they are).

The negativity from a section of the support will return because we've been shite again, and it's getting harder to defend the way the team are playing this season. Even when we were getting results there were issues, and in the last couple of weeks it's just turned to shit.

That still doesn't mean we should be thinking about getting rid of kerr. He's a young manager and deserves a decent shot. It's been a year like no other and we need to just consolidate our position in this league, and keep paying the bills. Short term thinking would be insane at this time.

The only thing that would make the manager's position untenable would be slipping into a relegation fight. That's still a fair bit off at the moment but the ship needs steadied.

Yes, would also agree with this, perhaps today wasn't the best example of our failures as it was always going to be a tough ask away to Hearts, however it's more the inept performances and uninspiring style against the others in the league which is causing the most concern, but as you say, it's too early and also unfair to be calling for a Management change at this present time.

Hopefully with Walsh back we can pair up both he and Smith which should cause most teams in this league a major problem, with the caveat of actually getting the ball to them of course !!

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3 minutes ago, Rodders1910 said:
8 minutes ago, HMIP said:
If Kerr is to continue, he needs to find a first team coach who can actually organise and motivate this shower of s****.  Otherwise we’re heading for a relegation battle we're ill equipped to fight.
 

Funny because a team of players like Walsh, Anderson, zanatta, Chalmers and Murdoch most certainly isn't a shower of sh*te and should be challenging up the top of this league. It's quite clear that it's the management that's a shower of sh*te and Kerr is tactically inept shown by the arse collapses and poor performances nearly every week this season

He has got far too many flair players who he doesn't know who to start cause he's got too many and not enough defensive players of any quality

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First half - Dominant and rarely threatened at the back, but ponderous going forward. The story of most of our league games this season (the ones that haven't featured Ginnelly anyway).

Second half - Nobody can defend. Every shot is a goal. Christophe Berra is a winger.

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46 minutes ago, placidcasual said:

Ayr United chairman Lachlan Cameron slams critics over claims Somerset  board failed to back Ian McCall - Daily Record

 

Big Lachlan says GIRFUY Jambos.

No idea who big Lachlan is but thanks for the chuckle.

Cute that Ayr fans seem to think that their own team's performance is a critical factor in the outcome here. We're just in this league for 27 games to crush every one of you diddies with absolute ease and this isn't a hearts team that any of us are particularly proud of.

Till next time.

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1 minute ago, Trogdor said:

HMIP needs a wee lie down, talk about revisionist nonsense. I've seen some drivel posted in my time but that takes the biscuit.

ETA - McCall's teams at this level routinely couldn't string two results together from December to April. 

Explain?  Last September I watched us outclass Dundee Utd in every area of the park, followed by demolition jobs of Alloa, Arbroath and Partick.  Probably the best football we’ve played in years

.  Within weeks of Kerr taking over, we’d completely lost out way and that’s continued into this season.
We largely controlled the game against Alloa, and the win against Dundee was great if a little fortuitous.  Aside from that, we’ve been awful all season.

 

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No idea who big Lachlan is but thanks for the chuckle.
Cute that Ayr fans seem to think that their own team's performance is a critical factor in the outcome here. We're just in this league for 27 games to crush every one of you diddies with absolute ease and this isn't a hearts team that any of us are particularly proud of.
Till next time.
Jesus christ you're trying too hard here. I know the goings on of last season really took it out of you lads - but this post is embarrassing.

Despite having a huge budget in the top league you were horrific, and it's hard to argue that relegation wasn't the correct decision (considering the situation).

You also lost to alloa ffs. Get a grip of yourself, son.
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A bit meh.

Losing three at home to Ayr... 😯 - our defence is utter mince. Berra and Halkett is a nightmare pairing. Smith with an uncharacteristic slip-up confounded the slapstick from Laurel and Hardy.

Pass marks to Roberts today. Lee was a constant menace. Boyce worker hard. Wighton had the attitude we lacked earlier on. Kingsley perhaps our MoM.

Berra, Halliday, Frear, Halkett...

We can get away with losing three and scoring five in the Champs but in the top tier, we'll still lose with our shambolic defence and not get the win. This was our story last year.

Could do better Neilson.

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14 minutes ago, HMIP said:

Explain?  Last September I watched us outclass Dundee Utd in every area of the park, followed by demolition jobs of Alloa, Arbroath and Partick.  Probably the best football we’ve played in years

.  Within weeks of Kerr taking over, we’d completely lost out way and that’s continued into this season.
We largely controlled the game against Alloa, and the win against Dundee was great if a little fortuitous.  Aside from that, we’ve been awful all season.

And the season before I watched us actually demolish Dundee United 5-1 away and then limp to an insipid 4th place finish under McCall, losing to Auchinleck to boot. I see no evidence from you as to why last year (after 6 games) would have been any different. McCall had a plan A and no plan B, when the pitches started to get heavy and cut up in winter we were dreadful. You're saying that Kerr inherited a top team (after 6 games) and destroyed it is clearly drivel. I expect it was more to do with the cut up pitches as it was the previous season.

However, in your alternative reality Ayr must have won the league and been a Premier league team right now. I can see why you're so angry at Kerr! 🤣

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