Miguel Sanchez Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 IN 14TH PLACE, WITH 24 POINTS FROM 3 VOTES Game: BioShock Platform: Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PC Release date: 2007 Gameplay: Zero Punctuation review: Additional youtube documentary which seems to share my sentiments about the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDFCVOB-RLU Poll-maker comments: I played the 2016 Remastered version a few months ago and wrote it up here: I don't know that I'll ever have an experience playing a video game again like I had the first time I played BioShock. That's a comment on me as much as video games, but it's undeniable how important this game is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 That might be the last from my top ten; can't be arsed to check. System Shock 2 with excellent (for the time) audiovisuals, dripping with atmosphere, and masterful storytelling? Hell yes I'll take that, even with the (understandable) streamlining of the RPG elements. One of only half a dozen or so Collector's Editions that I've ever bought, and I still have my resin Big Daddy. Worth looking back through the development of Bioshock - I was following it right from the first rumours that Ken Levine was working on a spiritual sequel to System Shock 2, as EA were sitting on the IP (and eventually started working on a System Shock 3 that turned into Dead Space). Much as Bioshock Infinite ended up being a different beast to the original game they started working on, the early work on Bioshock had nothing about Rapture or Objectivism, and was much more like SS2, only with a variety of insectoid enemies (I vividly remember some kind of centipede monster). Ken Levine really seems to find his games during development, rather than starting with fixed ideas. Anyway, an excellent game, although (blasphemy) Bioshock 2 may actually have the best gameplay of the series, as they made a real effort to create locations that feel like playgrounds for the player to ambush enemies in the manner that they'd prefer. Unfortunately the story's mediocre at best, so Bioshock 1 is the best of the series by doing everything very well. Although the final showdown is still pants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) I've actually been replaying the first one in fits and spurts because my opinion of the series has been so soured by my revisit of Infinite that I had to confirm for myself that the entire endeavour wasn't a load of shit. Bioshock is good though. It's got atmosphere for days and the shooting is still relatively fun for a game that appeared just before the homogenisation (for the better imo) of FPSs after Modern Warfare. Not many games (western AAA ones especially) do a good job of creating a unique space in the way that Bioshock does (even in Infinite). Edited May 9, 2021 by NotThePars 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I've actually been replaying the first one in fits and spurts because my opinion of the series has been so soured by my revisit of Infinite that I had to confirm for myself that the entire endeavour wasn't a load of shit. Bioshock is good though. It's got atmosphere for days and the shooting is still relatively fun for a game that appeared just before the homogenisation (for the better imo) of FPSs after Modern Warfare. Not many games (western AAA ones especially) do a good job of creating a unique space in the way that Bioshock does (even in Infinite). You didn't enjoy going back through Infinite? I didn't realise until I'd finished it the first time, but I didn't enjoy the gameplay much. I found the combat to be a chore, and the celebrated skyhook travel still didn't make it terribly enjoyable. I was just pushing through to advance the story. That said, the world was very engaging, and I thought the story was masterfully told. There's been a lot said about how it rips off a lot of basic sci-fi ideas from different places, but it was put together so well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Bioshock came out at a time where Heroes was big, and as a big nerd VL, it appealed to me to have a game where you could toss about fireballs and electricity like an angry God. Story first time around was very good too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 9 hours ago, BFTD said: You didn't enjoy going back through Infinite? I didn't realise until I'd finished it the first time, but I didn't enjoy the gameplay much. I found the combat to be a chore, and the celebrated skyhook travel still didn't make it terribly enjoyable. I was just pushing through to advance the story. That said, the world was very engaging, and I thought the story was masterfully told. There's been a lot said about how it rips off a lot of basic sci-fi ideas from different places, but it was put together so well. The world of Infinite may be my favourite ever video game world. It's absolutely magnificent. I'd go 1 > Infinite > 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Toun Lad Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, BFTD said: There's been a lot said about how it rips off a lot of basic sci-fi ideas from different places, but it was put together so well. I don't understand criticism like this. So many big games, films and shows do this do why single out some games and not others? Edited May 10, 2021 by Lang Toun Lad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I've been playing through the Remastered versions of the Bioshock games recently.The characters, story, setting and levels of the first game are fantastic. The twist was great first time round. Not been able to dual wield a plasmid and a weapon is a drawback and the hacking is beyond tedious.Problem with the second game is the story in the first was self contained and fully resolved by the end. Lamb is rectoned in as being a big player in Rapture but she's not on par with Fontaine and Ryan from the first game. The gameplay is better and the Minerva Den DLC is arguably better.I've recently started replaying Bioshock Infinite. Colombia still looks amazing and the two led characters are great. Comstock and Fitzroy again are not on par with the characters from Bioshock 1 and from what I can remember the story becomes a mess involving multiple realities. Looking forward to playing through Burial at Sea again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Lang Toun Lad said: I don't understand criticism like this. So many big games, films and shows do this do why single out some games and not others? I guess it just depends on whether or not people notice it? If they notice the tropes, they feel like it's obvious and lazy, while maybe it's not so noticeable to other people. I get the impression that sci-fi fans are particularly sensitive to that. Horror fans seem to love repetition, however 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I guess it just depends on whether or not people notice it? If they notice the tropes, they feel like it's obvious and lazy, while maybe it's not so noticeable to other people. I get the impression that sci-fi fans are particularly sensitive to that. Horror fans seem to love repetition, however [emoji14]That's because horror isBOOOO!easy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/games/2021/may/13/15-greatest-video-games-of-the-70s-ranked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 IN 13TH PLACE, WITH 25 POINTS FROM 5 VOTES Game: Super Mario Kart Platform: Super Nintendo Release date: 1992 Gameplay: Poll-maker comments: I've talked a lot in this thread about certain sounds and images in games being immediately familiar to me even when I hear them years later. This is one of those. If only I was ever any good at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I played the Wii version, rainbow road, on magic mushrooms back in the day, was wild. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Super Mariokart is fantastic. It was my number 1. I got it when it first came out - we had got our SNES that Xmas, and it came out in early January IIRC, and it was an absolute joy to play. I don't think any of the subsequent versions ever matched the fun of the original. I still play it on my SNES Classic now and again, and it's still an unbelievable amount of fun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Mario kart on the snes was utter fun, battle mode was just unreal fun with mates, id argue it was only beaten by mario kart wii or ds, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Mario Kart's shite. Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing is life. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Were people's eyesights better in the 90s? I remember trying to play Mario Kart on the N64 in like 2014 and I couldn't differentiate between a wall and the path. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Were people's eyesights better in the 90s? I remember trying to play Mario Kart on the N64 in like 2014 and I couldn't differentiate between a wall and the path. Tl;dr modern tvs don't deal with 240p resolution well at all (the resolution used on all consoles pre-6th gen) & interprits the video signal as 480i. This is compounded by composite video being the 2nd lowest quality analog video signal. I'm assuming here it was through a modern tv using composite. More detailed explanation here Edited May 14, 2021 by GNU_Linux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I played Super Mario Kart last year. Did not enjoy. Mario Kart 64 remains the best Mario Kart game, but the first one on the Wii was also exceptional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 The Rainbow Road soundtrack from Mario Kart 64 is an all time classic. You play it and dancefloors across the country fill up. Agreed with @Baptiste Bourgeois in that I have never got Super Smash Bros either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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