parsforlife Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 23 hours ago, Left Back said: Starting point for murders involving sex is 30 years. If he did successfully appeal his sentence I'd expect that to be the minimum. He'd be knocking on 80 when eligible for parole and playing devils advocate here how many 80 year olds would be deemed at risk of kidnapping, raping and murdering young women? Can't see him winning an appeal against his sentence though. Being a serving police office and using that fact to facilitate his crime is surely enough of an aggravating factor to justify the whole life term. Whole life terms are under a bit of pressure already( though maybe not so much now in Brexit land), but if he gets say 40 year minimum then its as good as. He's got nothing to lose at this point anyway, an appeal at worst keeps him occupied for a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: No wonder public trust of the Police is through the floor. Absolute c***s. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Those comments came from a Police and Crime Commissioner, to whom the local police force is accountable. The PCC is a really fucking pointless thing that England now elects because David Cameron thought it would be a good idea, and is done alongside council elections. Weirdly, the Met is not accountable to the Mayor of London, but the Home Secretary. If that's the attitude you have from those at the top, what fucking chance do you have? Those attitudes seep down. Edited October 1, 2021 by Michael W 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 “He’s not one of us, not a real police officer, and anyway she should have known more about police protocols and it wouldn’t have happened” The higher ups in the police really have shown themselves to be, almost universally, utter fucking c***s over the last few days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I liked the advice to dial 999. "Here I am being potentially abducted by a policeman...I know, I'll phone for some more. What could possibly go wrong." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I liked the advice to dial 999. "Here I am being potentially abducted by a policeman...I know, I'll phone for some more. What could possibly go wrong." I don't have any experience with the police, collectively or individually, but I doubt "please don't arrest me right now, I want to phone up and check you're really police" is the security method people are looking for 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Maybe they should, but you don't have to expect to know the law when dealing with the upholders of the law. But obviously not.Maybe the old, male police commissioner should have a think about what he's actually saying if they are to claw back any sort of trust from the position they're currently occupying (i.e. the sewer). Sent from my LLD-L31 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) We live inside Chris Morris's dream now. The worst but also the funniest country in the world. Edited October 1, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: “He’s not one of us, not a real police officer, and anyway she should have known more about police protocols and it wouldn’t have happened” The higher ups in the police really have shown themselves to be, almost universally, utter fucking c***s over the last few days. The police minister also decide to helpfully tell women they were entitled to ask officers for ID, as if this guy wasn't in possession of a fully-valid Metropolitan Police warrant card. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Those comments from the Yorkshire commissioner say it all. The police aren't upset about the kidnap, rape and murder of a defenceless women. They are upset because it is one of their own has been sent down. If Johnson has the slightest backbone, he should have made Priti Patel sack Cressida Dick on the spot yesterday and then promptly sacked Patel himself. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: If Johnson has the slightest backbone, he should have made Priti Patel sack Cressida Dick on the spot yesterday and then promptly sacked Patel himself. Spot on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Those comments from the Yorkshire commissioner say it all. The police aren't upset about the kidnap, rape and murder of a defenceless women. They are upset because it is one of their own has been sent down. If Johnson has the slightest backbone, he should have made Priti Patel sack Cressida Dick on the spot yesterday and then promptly sacked Patel himself. Cressida Dick is unsackable and has been for fifteen years. She was the officer in charge of the team that assassinated a Brazilian electrician in Stockwell Tube Station, and somehow nobody managed to get any kind of disciplinary sanctions for that. On the contrary, she got promoted a few months later... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 The saddest thing about this is that when the present furore dies down nothing will have changed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: The saddest thing about this is that when the present furore dies down nothing will have changed. Nothing ever does, whether it's the police, social workers, health & safety etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Jacksgranda said: Nothing ever does, whether it's the police, social workers, health & safety etc I dare to believe that we can create a society where change for the better is possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Aim Here said: Cressida Dick is unsackable and has been for fifteen years. She was the officer in charge of the team that assassinated a Brazilian electrician in Stockwell Tube Station, and somehow nobody managed to get any kind of disciplinary sanctions for that. On the contrary, she got promoted a few months later... They even created the myth that he made a run for it and jumped the ticket barrier. I like to think of myself as being switched on to that kind of bullshit, but I completely believed the barrier jumping story for years until I read about it fairly recently on here. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 "Can I use your radio to check your real please" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: They even created the myth that he made a run for it and jumped the ticket barrier. I like to think of myself as being switched on to that kind of bullshit, but I completely believed the barrier jumping story for years until I read about it fairly recently on here. I suspect what happened there - and with the stories that the guy being shot had a thick coat with wires from it (the first officer to interact with Menezes grabbed him, but he was pushed to the ground by the one doing the shooting) - was that people saw plain clothes officers jumping barriers and acting in unusual ways and assumed that they were looking at the supposed terrorist suspect - and the police didn't actually correct the initial misinformation. In fact they were letting everyone think that they had killed a terrorist for something like a day or two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aim Here said: I suspect what happened there - and with the stories that the guy being shot had a thick coat with wires from it (the first officer to interact with Menezes grabbed him, but he was pushed to the ground by the one doing the shooting) - was that people saw plain clothes officers jumping barriers and acting in unusual ways and assumed that they were looking at the supposed terrorist suspect - and the police didn't actually correct the initial misinformation. In fact they were letting everyone think that they had killed a terrorist for something like a day or two. You are being too kind to the Met. They made up a pack of lies and deliberately briefed the media on it to cover up the fact they murdered an innocent man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Wile E Coyote said: You are being too kind to the Met. They made up a pack of lies and deliberately briefed the media on it to cover up the fact they murdered an innocent man The lies that he and I'm referring to weren't explicitly put out by the cops, though.Those were early eyewitness reports in the press that went uncorrected. I'm not saying there weren't other lies, of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Aim Here said: The lies that he and I'm referring to weren't explicitly put out by the cops, though.Those were early eyewitness reports in the press that went uncorrected. I'm not saying there weren't other lies, of course. 100k to the family to make it disappear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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