Pompey Blue Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 15/06/2023 at 10:16, offsideflag said: I'm sure this is just Rangers trying to "punish" the Lowland League sides for opposing the Conference League , by withdrawing their financial support. Good riddance. It's an absurd position - apparently Rangers thought having a B team in the Lowland League was a great idea for 2 seasons, but suddenly it isn't anymore! I don't think they ever cared about developing younger players, they just wanted to find a way of getting B teams in to the SPFL. The slightest notion that the old firm were doing this for the good of Scottish football is thigh slappingly hysterical. If tomorrow they were offered places in the English premier league they’d take all of half a second to accept before sticking two fingers up to Scottish football. At least with one ugly sister gone a modicum of integrity has been restored to the LL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestman1954 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Still dont understand why they cant use the Scottish Reserve League that is already in existence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 14/06/2023 at 22:46, BTFD said: How long before they try to launch a breakaway SPL v2.0 for the full-time clubs, only with a second tier for Morton and Falkirk to keep the reserve sides match fit? Morton don't even run a reserve side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Surely teams should not be simply able to withdraw from Leagues. Even though I don't want them there it makes the league at Tier 5 look even more of a joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, superbigal said: Surely teams should not be simply able to withdraw from Leagues. Even though I don't want them there it makes the league at Tier 5 look even more of a joke. They were never members of the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: They were never members of the league. Like they never existed wow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, superbigal said: Like they never existed wow No, they were explicitly "guest clubs". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave94 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Honestman1954 said: Still dont understand why they cant use the Scottish Reserve League that is already in existence. They believe or believed that the path they were going down starting of as paying guests in the Lowland League and would eventually lead to the SPFL would be a more suitable shop window to show off 'future stars' and sell them on and make a profit. This was fully backed by the SFA as they believed it would benefit the national team. This is why both arse cheeks hoover up like crazy all the highly rated youth players around the country from other clubs. Will they now turn to the Reserve League, probably not? Along side league games last season in the Lowland League Rangers B were playing European clubs B teams, this is probably where they will turn to for most of their fixtures this coming season since playing against other Scottish B teams apart from Celtic is not much of a challenge, plus again it puts young players in the shop window since there is likely to be more scouts from a wider range of other clubs from around Europe in attendance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, CambieBud said: Absolutely right. He is not supposed to be a mouthpiece for just two clubs. His position is untenable but I doubt he could get a redneck with a blowtorch Which is exactly why the likes of him and Doncaster are given jobs. Maxwell clearly has no interest, or doesn't have the intellect, to have made any statements attributed to him. He says what he is told to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Pyramid Watcher said: They were never members of the league. 35 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: No, they were explicitly "guest clubs". Then all three can be shown the door! If there was more to it legally then if one or more walks away there may be a possibility of taking action against that/those clubs. If the LL can't do it then a complaint needs to be sent (in writing and independently witnessed!) to the SFA's new boss as it would then force them to make a decision about what to do/not to do about it. That would put them on the spot though. Oh dear! Maybe a good idea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 They are unlikely to have any leg to stand on in attempting to take action against a guest club for leaving before the season starts, and potentially before they were even formally invited to take part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 23 hours ago, approximately dave said: He hates Rangers............apparently. https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/mike-mulraney-to-replace-rod-petrie-as-sfa-president.243243/ The local **** have been claiming Mike's a Celtic fan for years. Apparently he has a green car In reality, his highest loyalty is to money, and he'll happily support the interests of both of them if they make sure there's a profit in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, BTFD said: The local **** have been claiming Mike's a Celtic fan for years. Apparently he has a green car In reality, his highest loyalty is to money, and he'll happily support the interests of both of them if they make sure there's a profit in it. Got to read every post ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave94 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, BTFD said: The local **** have been claiming Mike's a Celtic fan for years. Apparently he has a green car In reality, his highest loyalty is to money, and he'll happily support the interests of both of them if they make sure there's a profit in it. Someone has to have a special kind of intelligence and emotional maturity to be triggered by a colour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: They are unlikely to have any leg to stand on in attempting to take action against a guest club for leaving before the season starts, and potentially before they were even formally invited to take part. ..... so, if desired, the arrangement could be ended by simply withdrawing the "invitations". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyZero Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I'm probably one of the few who is slightly more open minded about B teams overall BUT there should be integrity and incentive of an appropriate level to balance out the many negative aspects. If Rangers and Celtic want their kids in, it should be at West of Scotland D4, and paying 200k each. If they are promoted to D3, the fee rises by say 25% per level = 250k, and so on. They could be promoted and relegated like every other participant (but not to the Premiership obviously). Ideally there would be some kind of proviso that the cash to each real club is initially invested improving facilities etc so there is actually a material benefit to the football structure in the country. Something like 200k a year is pocket change to the old firm but more of an impediment to almost every other club so that would probably prevent an influx of Bs joining the system, but if some decide they want to stump up the cash and start at the bottom, is that not sort of fair enough? Definitely a whole lot better than parachuting into the LL for a pittance. In the end, yes there would probably be stockpiling by Celtic and Rangers and it would benefit them more than others - but the never-ending two horse race has been firmly re-established anyway, and this way at least they would be putting more money into the game at lower levels. And if the likes of Hamilton want to splure all their money to the WOSFL in the hope of developing another Mccarthy and McArthur via Accies B getting horsed by Glenafton, Glencairn and Gartcairn, that's their judgement call. I think it could have positives, but the main consideration is for the relevant bodies to have the will not to bend over for the big clubs but take them to the cleaners financially for the privilege, and make them work their way up so at least one can say they have done the work and deserve to be at whatever level they reach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 15/06/2023 at 10:16, offsideflag said: I'm sure this is just Rangers trying to "punish" the Lowland League sides for opposing the Conference League , by withdrawing their financial support. Good riddance. It's an absurd position - apparently Rangers thought having a B team in the Lowland League was a great idea for 2 seasons, but suddenly it isn't anymore! I don't think they ever cared about developing younger players, they just wanted to find a way of getting B teams in to the SPFL. Oh you cynic, you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, BuddyZero said: I'm probably one of the few who is slightly more open minded about B teams overall BUT there should be integrity and incentive of an appropriate level to balance out the many negative aspects. If Rangers and Celtic want their kids in, it should be at West of Scotland D4, and paying 200k each. If they are promoted to D3, the fee rises by say 25% per level = 250k, and so on. They could be promoted and relegated like every other participant (but not to the Premiership obviously). Ideally there would be some kind of proviso that the cash to each real club is initially invested improving facilities etc so there is actually a material benefit to the football structure in the country. Something like 200k a year is pocket change to the old firm but more of an impediment to almost every other club so that would probably prevent an influx of Bs joining the system, but if some decide they want to stump up the cash and start at the bottom, is that not sort of fair enough? Definitely a whole lot better than parachuting into the LL for a pittance. In the end, yes there would probably be stockpiling by Celtic and Rangers and it would benefit them more than others - but the never-ending two horse race has been firmly re-established anyway, and this way at least they would be putting more money into the game at lower levels. And if the likes of Hamilton want to splure all their money to the WOSFL in the hope of developing another Mccarthy and McArthur via Accies B getting horsed by Glenafton, Glencairn and Gartcairn, that's their judgement call. I think it could have positives, but the main consideration is for the relevant bodies to have the will not to bend over for the big clubs but take them to the cleaners financially for the privilege, and make them work their way up so at least one can say they have done the work and deserve to be at whatever level they reach. B teams in the pyramid would only benefit the old firm, and so any club would be entitled to a b team somewhere in the pyramid.This would pretty much wreck every league in Scotland just as we've opened up the leagues to all the great smaller town clubs.The old firm have recently ruined Scottish womens football ( thats done )and the lowland leagues integrity (whoever runs the lowland league take the shame) As if the foregone conclusion that is the Scottish premier isnt enough, they want to dominate every part of Scottish football. I'm pretty sure that collectively the rest of Scottish football is far bigger than the old firm. I hope they go to England 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 15/06/2023 at 13:09, approximately dave said: Without Rangers B in the Lowland League clubs will go bust. There's 5 facing instant administration, as I understand it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 15/06/2023 at 16:11, approximately dave said: He hates Rangers............apparently. https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/mike-mulraney-to-replace-rod-petrie-as-sfa-president.243243/ They dinna seem affa happy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.