Granny Danger Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, coprolite said: I appreciate that you’re being all reconciliatory here but a “remainer” is someone who wanted the UK to remain in the EU. As we are no longer in the EU we can’t possibly remain there now. If people want to get all bent out of shape about people who are advocating rejoining the EU then they’ll have to come up with some better terminology to describe these people. Joiners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 What should be headline topic rather than MOTD. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, welshbairn said: What should be headline topic rather than MOTD. Millions of people would just listen to that and say, "this confirms that we need to stop adhering to human rights legislation". Maybe they already have. They won't change their minds until the safeguards against tyranny are removed and they find the rights of their family and friends being infringed upon. People never do. Some won't even then, so long as they personally aren't affected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, BFTD said: Millions of people would just listen to that and say, "this confirms that we need to stop adhering to human rights legislation". Maybe they already have. They won't change their minds until the safeguards against tyranny are removed and they find the rights of their family and friends being infringed upon. People never do. Some won't even then, so long as they personally aren't affected. "adhering to human rights legislation" is just the sort of Liberal big wordyness that Tory voters hate. You're probably one of those Lefty Lawyers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: What should be headline topic rather than MOTD. His point about it being a deflection from the government’s disastrous domestic record is made more clearly and more succinctly than any opposition politician I have heard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Andrew Neil skewered poor Victoria Atkins on his Channel Four show tonight, so much so that she was reduced to a nervous giggle. All he had to do was research some figures that the viewer might've expected her to be able to defend and of course she couldn't. I almost sympathised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 16:47, welshbairn said: What should be headline topic rather than MOTD. Hud at government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 First budget leak is a nice bit of tax relief for millionaires. The people's party 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, coprolite said: First budget leak is a nice bit of tax relief for millionaires. The people's party I assume they know they're f'd in the next election so will squeeze every last drop out for them and their mates. That trickle down effect will kick in this time, surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) As there isn't a thread that includes "Some Tories are off their nut" in the title, I'll post this story here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-47572133 I mean, really.... "An MP has been ridiculed on social media after he suggested all knives should be fitted with GPS trackers. Scott Mann, Conservative MP for North Cornwall, said on Twitter there should be a national database "like we do with guns". His tweet has attracted more than 3,600 comments, with some saying Mr Mann was "not the sharpest knife in the drawer". Ooft. Edited March 15, 2023 by Salt n Vinegar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 The Chancellor has just started on his second 'e' in about 10 minutes. Lad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 or four carbon capture plants announced, still nothing for Acorn in Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 "More rigorous application of the sanction regime" Jesus, that's going to be fun. The proposed changes to Limited Capability for Work elements are also pretty concerning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Well, this is some top Tory work right here. Of all the things that could be done to help millions suffering in the middle of a cost of living crisis, this: "Jeremy Hunt defends pension tax giveaway for rich, saying it will lead to people getting NHS operations more quickly." Never mind that his argument makes absolutely no sense, 'The Office for Budget Responsibility said yesterday the policy would only lead to an extra 15,000 people staying in work. When this figure was put to Hunt, he said he did not accept it." Tories gonna Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Well, this is some top Tory work right here. Of all the things that could be done to help millions suffering in the middle of a cost of living crisis, this: "Jeremy Hunt defends pension tax giveaway for rich, saying it will lead to people getting NHS operations more quickly." Never mind that his argument makes absolutely no sense, 'The Office for Budget Responsibility said yesterday the policy would only lead to an extra 15,000 people staying in work. When this figure was put to Hunt, he said he did not accept it." Tories gonna Tory. Is this the "your betters will spend this money on private healthcare and leave more NHS appointments available for society's rubbish" idea beloved of parody accounts like Dawson Park Boy? 4 hours ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: "More rigorous application of the sanction regime" Jesus, that's going to be fun. The proposed changes to Limited Capability for Work elements are also pretty concerning. I see that the DWP have been ordered to release their own internal research that outlined how benefits sanctions are counterproductive, add extra expense, and increase unemployment. That's before you get into the morality of deliberately punishing people for being poor, which isn't a consideration for psychopaths. No doubt you're aware that the government's been fighting against releasing it for years - they needn't worry, as egregious cruelty is enough of a vote-winner now that it'll probably give them a wee bump in the polls. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, BFTD said: Is this the "your betters will spend this money on private healthcare and leave more NHS appointments available for society's rubbish" idea beloved of parody accounts like Dawson Park Boy? I see that the DWP have been ordered to release their own internal research that outlined how benefits sanctions are counterproductive, add extra expense, and increase unemployment. That's before you get into the morality of deliberately punishing people for being poor, which isn't a consideration for psychopaths. No doubt you're aware that the government's been fighting against releasing it for years - they needn't worry, as egregious cruelty is enough of a vote-winner now that it'll probably give them a wee bump in the polls. They've been ordered to release info on many occasions and just point blank refused with absolutely no repercussions at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: They've been ordered to release info on many occasions and just point blank refused with absolutely no repercussions at all You kinda have to admire the willingness to flaunt their disregard for conventions that were clearly never enforceable in the first place. I take it they've decided that they're entering the authoritarian end game, so broader public opinion isn't going to matter for much longer. Has this been mentioned yet? Bunch of troublemaking pinkos whining about "civic freedoms" being eroded in the UK. You have the "right" to work for our benefit until you die, and be grateful for what we allow you. https://monitor.civicus.org/country-rating-changes/uk/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Well, this is some top Tory work right here. Of all the things that could be done to help millions suffering in the middle of a cost of living crisis, this: "Jeremy Hunt defends pension tax giveaway for rich, saying it will lead to people getting NHS operations more quickly." Never mind that his argument makes absolutely no sense, If you give a billionaire a million pound in tax breaks (at the expense of those scraping by on minimum wage) it will "incentivize" them to do something useful with that million that they won't even notice in their offshore bank account..... or something. Edited March 16, 2023 by StellarHibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, StellarHibee said: If you give a billionaire a million pound in tax breaks (at the expense of those scraping by on minimum wage) it will "incentivize" them to do something useful with that million that they won't even notice in their offshore tax account..... or something. Technically true. They'll be more likely to provide the minister(s) responsible with executive "jobs" for themselves, their families, and friends. It's a form of money laundering, when you think about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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