AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 15 hours ago, Burning Barns said: I think it's worth noting that it's the same SNP members or supporters who are always on this thread posting their smears. They obviously perceive Alba as some kind of threat, because otherwise it'd simply be ignored. Don't think you know how P&B works. The Ayr United thread was swarming with Morton fans all summer long and it had nothing to do with Ayr United being a threat. Alex Salmond = David Hopkin Chris McEleney = Sean McGinty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 There's more chance of Alex Salmond walking on the moon than there is of Alba winning a Holyrood seat. I'll be staggered if they're even on the go by the next Scottish election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Everyone who votes Alba is the kind of person that if they sit next to you on a work night out, it ruins the whole night. And that's a fact. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I can see two sides to Alba. It has some real roasters but also some good people who have been inside the SNP and don’t like what they see. I think that’s ok. The tit for tat sniping between Alba and the SNP is two sided. Roasters like Pete Wishart and Stewart McDonald are a complete embarrassment. SNP hard core seem to be happy enough to acknowledge bad behaviour by Alba people but are happy to support the likes of Wishart and McDonald unconditionally. When I joined the SNP in 2006 it was a great place to be. Collegiate, kind and dissent was accepted. It helped to shape arguments. I stepped away a few years ago because all I saw was infighting, mostly caused by entryists like Rhiannon Spear, Fiona Robertson and people like that. I hope to see both parties become the best versions of themselves and do well. If it comes down to it in the future and Sturgeon is still in place, I will vote Alba. I prefer Salmond to her by a considerable distance. Having been in the party for almost 15 years I largely distrust Sturgeon. I guess that will make me bad in the eyes of many, but it’s my genuine view based on what I’ve observed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Aye, they’ll be a thing until Alex Salmond decides he doesn’t fancy it anymore. Without his personality to hold them together, they’ll fall apart - it’s no like Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh or Chris McEleny are the reason these Twitter weirdos got all excited. Once he goes, it’ll be like UKIP after Farage left - a small group of nobodies spouting ever more insane things while no one pays attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 The Alba contingent on twitter are a different breed, absolute lunatics the lot of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: The Alba contingent on twitter are a different breed, absolute lunatics the lot of them. I would say that’s fair for most of them. But how come the SNP Twitter nutters escape criticism? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Thorongil said: I would say that’s fair for most of them. But how come the SNP Twitter nutters escape criticism? They all joined Alba. I'm constantly relieved when knocking on doors about the level of social media illiteracy amongst the voting population. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Thorongil said: But how come the SNP Twitter nutters escape criticism? Do they? I assumed everyone was aware that the SNP has a fringe of lunatics supporting the party. It would appear though that a large number of them bailed, and set up camp over at Alba. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: They all joined Alba. I'm constantly relieved when knocking on doors about the level of social media illiteracy amongst the voting population. You don’t think Pete Wishart, Stuart McDonald, Rhiannon Spear, Fiona Robertson etc are nutters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I wonder if their conference is selling "We Are The 1.66%" t-shirts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: They all joined Alba. They really didn't, unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Aye, they’ll be a thing until Alex Salmond decides he doesn’t fancy it anymore. Without his personality to hold them together, they’ll fall apart - it’s no like Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh or Chris McEleny are the reason these Twitter weirdos got all excited. Once he goes, it’ll be like UKIP after Farage left - a small group of nobodies spouting ever more insane things while no one pays attention. Does that mean Tasmina will have to find a fifth political party to join? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, Thorongil said: You don’t think Pete Wishart, Stuart McDonald, Rhiannon Spear, Fiona Robertson etc are nutters? Do i think 3 out of 4 are a pain in the arse? Yes - I don't mind Fiona. Do i think they are actively harmful to the cause of independence and will put off persuadable people. No. And that puts them ahead of the Alba rabble for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Does that mean Tasmina will have to find a fifth political party to join? Is that all? It seems like more somehow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: Do i think 3 out of 4 are a pain in the arse? Yes - I don't mind Fiona. Do i think they are actively harmful to the cause of independence and will put off persuadable people. No. And that puts them ahead of the Alba rabble for me. This is what I mean. You’ll prevaricate tribally in favour of one side or the other, even when the behaviour is the same. Not good faith IMO. Robertson has toned things down in the last 6 months but her conduct prior to that was often abysmal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Everyone who votes Alba is the kind of person that if they sit next to you on a work night out, it ruins the whole night. And that's a fact.Pub politicians, genuinely the worst type of person in society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jag Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Thorongil said: You don’t think Pete Wishart, Stuart McDonald, Rhiannon Spear, Fiona Robertson etc are nutters? 2 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: Do i think 3 out of 4 are a pain in the arse? Yes - I don't mind Fiona. Do i think they are actively harmful to the cause of independence and will put off persuadable people. No. And that puts them ahead of the Alba rabble for me. You not getting Stuart & Stewart mixed up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 12/09/2021 at 22:04, Miguel Sanchez said: Someone who's not a self-important sex pest, preferably. On 12/09/2021 at 22:53, Burning Barns said: As you know, AS was cleared on all charges. Protecting the rights of Scottish women and girls is a key part of what Alba stand for. The current party of government at Holyrood and their coalition partners, both have some issues, so to speak, when it comes to this. I note that in the pages that followed this you didn't (and still haven't) addressed the self-important bit. I want Scotland to be independent. I'm not going to vote for the SNP or Greens in upcoming elections because of vaccine passports. The other major parties are all opposed to independence, so they're getting my vote either. There's nowhere relevant for my vote to go, and a fringe group of cranks, lunatics and people bearing out online grudges and hysteria for a living aren't getting it either. As someone pointed out earlier, for independence to become a reality you need to convince the soft no and the undecided vote. Alex Salmond and his even more repulsive hangers-on is not going to do this. Try focusing on that rather than painting yourself as a martyr for things that aren't as big a problem as you try to say they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, Miguel Sanchez said: I note that in the pages that followed this you didn't (and still haven't) addressed the self-important bit. I want Scotland to be independent. I'm not going to vote for the SNP or Greens in upcoming elections because of vaccine passports. The other major parties are all opposed to independence, so they're getting my vote either. There's nowhere relevant for my vote to go, and a fringe group of cranks, lunatics and people bearing out online grudges and hysteria for a living aren't getting it either. As someone pointed out earlier, for independence to become a reality you need to convince the soft no and the undecided vote. Alex Salmond and his even more repulsive hangers-on is not going to do this. Try focusing on that rather than painting yourself as a martyr for things that aren't as big a problem as you try to say they are. If you’re not going to vote for either party who have a realistic of delivering Independence maybe you shouldn’t preach to others about ‘realities’. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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