EdinburghLivi Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) On 17/05/2021 at 11:51, realmadrid said: The seeds etc are all known now Unless they change the format things should be as follows Into the last 16 as seeds Rangers Celtic Hibs Aberdeen St Johnstone North group number 1 seeds Livingston Dundee United Ross County Hearts South group number 1 seeds St Mirren Motherwell Kilmarnock Hamilton North group number 2 seeds Dundee Raith Rovers Inverness Arbroath South group number 2 seeds Dunfermline Queen of the South Ayr Morton The remaining clubs split North and South, with the one additional place to be awarded, possibly a play off between a highland and lowland league side but with Brora , Kelty and Brechin all likely to end up in the North section it would be better if this extra non SPFL side was in the South group. Switching is bad news for us. We've definitely benefited over the last few seasons from a lot of weaker teams in the South section. Edited May 21, 2021 by EdinburghLivi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 East Kilbride will be the extra team this year. https://spfl.co.uk/news/date-set-for-premier-sports-cup-draw Quote Date set for Premier Sports Cup draw Group stage draw to be made next Friday The draw for the first round group stage of the 2021/22 Premier Sports Cup will be made on Friday May 28 at 1.00pm. It will be shown live by Premier Sports via their FreeSports channel. FreeSports is available on Freeview HD channel 64, Sky HD channel 422, Virgin HD 553, TalkTalk 64, BT Vision channel 64 and is also available on the FreeSports Player — www.freesportsplayer.tv The draw will also be broadcast on the SPFL YouTube channel. With five SPFL clubs taking part in UEFA competitions next season, the Premier Sports Cup group stage draw will involve the other 37 SPFL clubs from 2020/21 plus Highland League champions Brora Rangers and Lowland League champions Kelty Hearts. The new, additional slot in the group stage will be taken this year by East Kilbride, who finished as runners-up in the Lowland League this season. This follows the drawing of lots between East Kilbride and Fraserburgh, the Highland League runners-up. Those 40 teams will be drawn into eight groups of five on a seeded and regionalised basis. Details of the seeding pots will be confirmed ahead of the draw. The eight group winners and three best runners-up will join European qualifiers Rangers, Celtic, Hibernian, Aberdeen and cup holders St Johnstone in the last 16 of the competition. Premier Sports Cup 2021/22 dates Group stage MD1: Weekend of July 10/11 MD2: Midweek of July 13/14 MD3: Weekend of July 17/18 MD4: Midweek of July 20/21 MD5: Weekend of July 24/25 Second round Weekend of August 14/15 Quarter-finals Midweek of September 21-23 Semi-finals Weekend of November 20/21 Final Sunday December 19 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 17 hours ago, EdinburghLivi said: Switching is bad news for us. We've definitely benefited over the last few seasons from a lot of weaker teams in the South section. Obviously there's still luck of the draw involved, but the South unseeded teams have consistently been stronger than the North. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Obviously there's still luck of the draw involved, but the South unseeded teams have consistently been stronger than the North. I think the first and second seeds were historically a lot stronger in the North. I'd still say that's the case this season but less so than previously. Would have to look at the non seeds more closely but I'm sure you're right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YER SISTERS YER MAW Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Fair fcks to St Johnstone. I doff my cap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaspianChris Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I cant remember off memory but I think the relegated League 2 are still given a non seed spot for their region. I seem to remember that being the case for East Stirling and Berwick although I could be mistaken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, CaspianChris said: I cant remember off memory but I think the relegated League 2 are still given a non seed spot for their region. I seem to remember that being the case for East Stirling and Berwick although I could be mistaken. Yes everything is based on the season just past so its the current 42 plus now 3 from the highland and lowland leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bushel o' Bricks Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) If I've worked this out correctly, the unseeded teams should be regionalised as follows: North Alloa Athletic Brechin City Brora Rangers Cove Rangers Cowdenbeath East Fife Elgin City Forfar Athletic Kelty Hearts Montrose Peterhead Stirling Albion South Airdrieonians Albion Rovers Annan Athletic Clyde Dumbarton East Kilbride Edinburgh City Falkirk Partick Thistle Queen's Park Stenhousemuir Stranraer This is on the basis of a purely geographical north-south divide, which throws up the possibility of, for example, Stirling Albion being drawn in the same group as Brora Rangers, a 400-mile round trip, and unable to be drawn with Stenhousemuir 10 miles down the road. As far as I'm aware this is how it's worked in the past, hence the occasional switching between the north and south categories for 'middle ground' clubs. Edited May 27, 2021 by Bushel o' Bricks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Pretty confident Stranraer will be in the South section as well tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Looking forward to being in the same group as Clyde and Dumbarton as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 At least being in the same section and seeding group as Raith means we can't get drawn against them for the 4th season in a row. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 My ideal group would be Motherwell Morton (because that is bound to happen at this rate) Airdrieonians (not played them in any form for ages) East Kilbride (local team, would like to travel to their ground) Albion rovers (to put some fear into the mix) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortescueFotheringhamSmyth Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Killie, Ayr, Partick, Falkirk, Queen's Park would be good. Get a couple of new managers nicely warmed-up. Edited May 27, 2021 by FortescueFotheringhamSmyth Typo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 North side teams: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) I just want to draw teams we've not played for a while. St Mirren - only top seeds we've not faced in the groups since they came in. Last meeting with them was 05/06 when they won the first division. Morton - We've drawn all the 2nd seeds at some point but think Morton is the longest ago since last meeting. Anyone not in our league from the unseeded. Albion Rovers and Annan will do as they'll probably be the weakest. Edited May 28, 2021 by C. Muir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 We've had the same group for about 3 seasons in a row. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Hearts and Cove Rangers for the 3rd time in 4 seasons? f**k off with this dull pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Group D Livingston Raith Rovers Alloa Athletic Cowdenbeath Brechin Could have been a lot worse for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoramus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 On 26/05/2021 at 23:51, craigkillie said: Looking forward to being in the same group as Clyde and Dumbarton as usual. One out of two ain’t bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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