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On 08/05/2021 at 08:50, invergowrie arab said:

For people thinking nonr of this affecrs them. A major Dundee drug dealer built a new house around my way and his architectural tastes are utterly appalling.

 

Wanted to stay near his customers?

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on a related topic as to the pointlessness of gangwar, I watched that Detectives documentary following Manchester Police recently. The episode where one gang has assassinated a guy over supposed dealing in their area. The head of the gang who was found guilty. The point where hes being interviewed and saying no comment no comment and they then mention his dna was found on the gun. You can see it all come crashing down in just a look. He realised it was over nothing and for nothing.

36 years he got. For feck all, for not being able to handle some competition.

 

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34 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said:

on a related topic as to the pointlessness of gangwar, I watched that Detectives documentary following Manchester Police recently. The episode where one gang has assassinated a guy over supposed dealing in their area. The head of the gang who was found guilty. The point where hes being interviewed and saying no comment no comment and they then mention his dna was found on the gun. You can see it all come crashing down in just a look. He realised it was over nothing and for nothing.

36 years he got. For feck all, for not being able to handle some competition.

 

That’s a cracking series but seems to have been stopped after 2 episodes, maybe to do with legal appeals etc of some of its “stars”.

 

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2 minutes ago, Rasputin said:

That’s a cracking series but seems to have been stopped after 2 episodes, maybe to do with legal appeals etc of some of its “stars”.

It was due to come back this month but has been delayed.  As you say, probably due to some of the people involved appealing or being charged with other crimes.

 

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Apologies for the link to The Sun but as well as saying “Dode” Baigrie is in hiding and trying to eradicate any pics of himself from the internet they mention that the details of those that could be used to get at Richardson were passed to him by “a gangster from the travelling community”.  They don’t name him explicitly but if anyone has read the thread it wouldn’t take too long to join the dots.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7092066/bradley-welsh-murder-shooting-trainspotting-edinburgh/

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https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-record/20160729/281492160684310

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30 minutes ago, Rasputin said:

Apologies for the link to The Sun but as well as saying “Dode” Baigrie is in hiding and trying to eradicate any pics of himself from the internet they mention that the details of those that could be used to get at Richardson were passed to him by “a gangster from the travelling community”.  They don’t name him explicitly but if anyone has read the thread it wouldn’t take too long to join the dots.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7092066/bradley-welsh-murder-shooting-trainspotting-edinburgh/

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https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-record/20160729/281492160684310

The police have to be building a case against Baigrie.  I don't really understand why he was named, sometimes they don't name people in these cases.

Interestingly, the guy who was convicted of stabbing McGovern had previously been on the wrong end of an attempted murder.  No-one was ever convicted but a prominent Scottish boxer was charged with it and cleared when witnesses failed to appear.

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1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

The police have to be building a case against Baigrie.  I don't really understand why he was named, sometimes they don't name people in these cases.

 

Quite a bold move by the Police, trolling violent criminals. 

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On 08/05/2021 at 13:17, 8MileBU said:

The gear linkage snapped on one of my old work van’s many years ago en route from Milngavie to Possil and ended up getting a tow to that garage at Lambhill. They were very helpful and fixed the gear linkage. 

Applerow Motors. They do my work van repairs.

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44 minutes ago, Peter Grant said:

Round 2 of all this has been kicking off. 

Any details?

I saw something about a machete attack at the Fort, sounds like it could’ve been connected. No confirmation though.

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23 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Any details?

I saw something about a machete attack at the Fort, sounds like it could’ve been connected. No confirmation though.

Bingo. Also had their chopper and armed, balaclava’d police dealing with a motorist around there too. Quite surreal seeing black-clad police brandishing machine guns on Edinburgh streets.

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4 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Any details?

I saw something about a machete attack at the Fort, sounds like it could’ve been connected. No confirmation though.

Guy assaulted was an associate of George Baigrie who alledgedly paid for Orman to kill Welsh.

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Daily Record report on the stabbing links it to some other attacks in the city, including one that seems to have been filmed.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/machete-attack-edinburgh-retail-park-24253902?_ga=2.159922877.1056889776.1623419423-494459416.1540384793

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I used to live 10 minutes from the Hell's Angels clubhouse in Parkdale, Toronto. Most of them drove modest cars. They had moved there after their east end clubhouse was raided and shut down, the residents that lived near their old clubhouse then complained that the neighborhood didn't seem safe anymore.  

They don't seem to have huge influence here, nothing compared to their Montreal counterparts. There are Mafia families here but most of them made their money in the city then moved to the suburb of Woodbridge, so most of the shootings in the city are Somali shooting other Somali, ironic that their parents probably moved them to Canada to escape violence 

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14 minutes ago, Torpar said:

I used to live 10 minutes from the Hell's Angels clubhouse in Parkdale, Toronto. Most of them drove modest cars. They had moved there after their east end clubhouse was raided and shut down, the residents that lived near their old clubhouse then complained that the neighborhood didn't seem safe anymore.  

They don't seem to have huge influence here, nothing compared to their Montreal counterparts. There are Mafia families here but most of them made their money in the city then moved to the suburb of Woodbridge, so most of the shootings in the city are Somali shooting other Somali, ironic that their parents probably moved them to Canada to escape violence 

Is there not a significant Mafia war going on in Canada, with Sicilians v Calabrians?  The vast majority of Mafia murders in North America now happen in Canada, probably because all the yank wiseguys are doing 100 year sentences.

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7 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Is there not a significant Mafia war going on in Canada, with Sicilians v Calabrians?  The vast majority of Mafia murders in North America now happen in Canada, probably because all the yank wiseguys are doing 100 year sentences.

While you get about a week in jail for murder in Canada.... I believe there is a "war" ongoing in Hamilton, maybe because it's closer to the US border and Buffalo but Hamilton seems to be more of a mafia town than Toronto. Toronto's "organised" crime seems to be as diverse as it's population Italian mafia, Eastern European mafias, Bikers, Jamaican Posses, Tamil gangs, Triads, MS13, Nigerian mafia etc Police say that the Hell's Angels are the 'Kings of the underworld' in Canada

The closest I've been to a murder is when one happened in 2015 outside the house I used to live in, clearly not organised, more an idiot who couldn't shoot straight, I saw the officer preforming CPR as it mentions in the article, it's still unsolved as we speak.  

https://globalnews.ca/news/2145968/multiple-victims-after-shooting-near-muzik-nightclub/

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