Leith Green Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, supermik said: Did the Gardners not shut down straight after the bar staff walked out mid shift when some local crooks arrived and demanded protection money from them? Yep. Its a house now ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Derry said: Because it's easy money for him. He handles drugs for about 30 minutes and makes thousands upon thousands. Could he throw a kettle over a pub? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: They run this along side other legitimate businesses. Aye that's the model. Make money from drugs and invest it into legitimate businesses. The police will say drugs fund Bin Laden and shite like that as a distraction from the fact that it creates start up capital and liquidity for a fair proportion of provincial businesses. Drug dealers are allowed to operate because they are a fully integrated and vital part of the economy. Has it been reported if the police told Welsh he was at risk of being murdered after his killer was grassed up a month prior to the shooting? Edited May 8, 2021 by Detournement -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derry Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Stormzy said: Could he throw a kettle over a pub? Could you never quote me again. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/?_gl=1*tid22y*_ga*YW1wLV9UQVlQQURnN3VwMDVncGwxTi1qakRHektPREtkaXVhS1RDVUtUQzlLekt6UTVmS012aDR2ZXcyZDd3NG1CbVg. The two phones seized from Orman should be enough to jail all the major dealers. Might need to bring in police from elsewhere though to make that actually happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 17 hours ago, ICTChris said: Forgot to ask in my original post - Are any P&Bers involved in organised crime? Define ‘organised’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, The Derry said: Could you never quote me again. Rude. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Has it been reported if the police told Welsh he was at risk of being murdered after his killer was grassed up a month prior to the shooting? Two conflicting stories were put out (one saying he had, one saying he hadn’t been given the Osman) by the police and a police complaints investigation launched. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 17 hours ago, ICTChris said: Forgot to ask in my original post - Are any P&Bers involved in organised crime? I do my shoplifting in alphabetical order. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rasputin said: The two phones seized from Orman should be enough to jail all the major dealers. You're not that naive, surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: You're not that naive, surely? No, hence the next sentence you omitted! I spoke to someone recently who was inadvertently dragged in to a murky case and was told something jaw-dropping by one set of detectives about a couple of their colleagues. Don’t want Div to be machine gunned in his hot tub though so won’t say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I used to go out with a girl that stayed right across from the robins nest. Could have been me!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lofarl said: I used to go out with a girl that stayed right across from the robins nest. Could have been me!!! It still could. You’ve maybe said too much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lofarl said: I used to go out with a girl that stayed right across from the robins nest. Could have been me!!! I used to watch it. Does that count? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Apparently Orman had an Encrochat phone in prison. Encrochat phones were widely used by criminals to communicate using encrypted messaging. The system was cracked last year bubEuropean police forces and the information gleaned has lead to hundreds of arrests and seizures of millions of pounds of Drugs and weapons. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/phone-seized-from-bradley-welshs-killer-could-lead-to-the-downfall-of-gangland-mr-bigs-3229085?fbclid=IwAR3iU7JXc-MFcG5-dPGtSON_ql2PyFotFwmGLs64ESvBPis3xgGOIqOwZNA Some nice details there about Scott Brown getting a kicking which eventually lead to a square go in a Portobello cemetery after a funeral. Never saw that in the Sopranos! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Apparently Orman had an Encrochat phone in prison. Encrochat phones were widely used by criminals to communicate using encrypted messaging. The system was cracked last year bubEuropean police forces and the information gleaned has lead to hundreds of arrests and seizures of millions of pounds of Drugs and weapons. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/phone-seized-from-bradley-welshs-killer-could-lead-to-the-downfall-of-gangland-mr-bigs-3229085?fbclid=IwAR3iU7JXc-MFcG5-dPGtSON_ql2PyFotFwmGLs64ESvBPis3xgGOIqOwZNA Some nice details there about Scott Brown getting a kicking which eventually lead to a square go in a Portobello cemetery after a funeral. Never saw that in the Sopranos! Just to point out, the standard of English in that article is absolutely shocking. Random sentences that don’t make any sense and littered with spelling mistakes. Does proof reading not happen in the media? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Apparently Orman had an Encrochat phone in prison. Encrochat phones were widely used by criminals to communicate using encrypted messaging. The system was cracked last year bubEuropean police forces and the information gleaned has lead to hundreds of arrests and seizures of millions of pounds of Drugs and weapons. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/phone-seized-from-bradley-welshs-killer-could-lead-to-the-downfall-of-gangland-mr-bigs-3229085?fbclid=IwAR3iU7JXc-MFcG5-dPGtSON_ql2PyFotFwmGLs64ESvBPis3xgGOIqOwZNA Some nice details there about Scott Brown getting a kicking which eventually lead to a square go in a Portobello cemetery after a funeral. Never saw that in the Sopranos! The encro chat phone contained a stupendous amount of pornography too. There were suggestions that the Ak47 attack on Kelbie’s house was staged to try and have his rival arrested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Just to point out, the standard of English in that article is absolutely shocking. Random sentences that don’t make any sense and littered with spelling mistakes. Does proof reading not happen in the media? The Record had a headline yesterday (altered eventually) proclaiming Kris Boyd had won a £2.4 pay out. I know times are tough but that didn’t seem newsworthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Pato said: It's weird how this stuff continues to simmer away in the background, but unless you're unforunate enough to have been doing your weekly shop whenever one of these guys gets gunned down in an Asda car park, you wouldn't really notice. East London used to be like that. My mum would send me the Dunfermline Press as one of her former pupils was usually on the front page for some crime. I’d send her the local paper and the first six or seven pages were stabbing, shootings, folk tied to a chair and dumped in the canal. One that stood out was four people being shot at lunchtime in a busy shopping precinct and there were no witnesses whatsoever. But in general, like you say, it was like a separate world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/05/police-believe-that-sean-orman-was-acting-with-others-in-the-murder-of-bradley-welsh/?fbclid=IwAR1omG1q-YCtpUjezB3-a1sjjvmYHYIj6KxenSL77Au0L2Si8bESzjK-fns Police have submitted a report to the Crown in relation to how they handled the evidence to them that Bradley was in danger. They are also now suggesting they will pursue the other folk involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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