Gordopolis Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Is Clarke to now be judged on the results of other teams? Harsh. I'm more old school and prefer to judge managers on the performances of their own teams.Poor performance from the Germans the other day.Clarke OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Satoshi said: Imagine being dense enough to think Japan is a smaller footballing nation than Scotland. They have 25x the population that we have. Overall, player wise we are clearly better than Canada or Saudi Arabia (who are in much easier qualifying sections), and probably on a par with Japan. They probably have better depth (because they have 25x our population) but our best players are better than their best players. They don't have anyone comparable to Robertson, for example. No doubt they are a better team than us though, and are usually far greater than the sum of their parts. Can you quote one person saying Japan is a smaller footballing nation than Scotland? -6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Japan is a smaller footballing nation than Scotland[emoji56] 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Good result for Iran, but terrible for Steve Clarke who must now surely resign after that win? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Good result for Iran, but terrible for Steve Clarke who must now surely resign after that win? Has anyone said anything remotely like that? -7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 USA getting a comfortable and deserved 0-0 draw with England in their second group game, hard to imagine we'd be able to do that. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 If you’re knocked out in the group stages that draw means nothing in the grand scheme of things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Good result for Iran, but terrible for Steve Clarke who must now surely resign after that win? Clarke lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to Iran. Worse than Ally MacLeod, who also refused to resign after shaming Scotland. When will the SFA listen to the voices of right-thinking, hard-working Scotland fans and reappoint Jock Stein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 In terms of future managers, I seem to remember Saudi Arabia manager Herve Renard being brought up by someone on here before. Hes certainly showed up well so far in this tournament, their about to play so this post could blow up in my face His career reads like he's a specialist in international management, hes won the African Cup of nations twice managing Zambia and the Ivory Coast. Could he be persuaded to come back to Europe to manage us? That video of his half time team talk against Argentina was amazing. Gave a good insight into his style, and how he can inspire a team. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 hours ago, BingMcCrosby said: In terms of future managers, I seem to remember Saudi Arabia manager Herve Renard being brought up by someone on here before. Hes certainly showed up well so far in this tournament, their about to play so this post could blow up in my face His career reads like he's a specialist in international management, hes won the African Cup of nations twice managing Zambia and the Ivory Coast. Could he be persuaded to come back to Europe to manage us? That video of his half time team talk against Argentina was amazing. Gave a good insight into his style, and how he can inspire a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 hours ago, BingMcCrosby said: In terms of future managers, I seem to remember Saudi Arabia manager Herve Renard being brought up by someone on here before. Hes certainly showed up well so far in this tournament, their about to play so this post could blow up in my face His career reads like he's a specialist in international management, hes won the African Cup of nations twice managing Zambia and the Ivory Coast. Could he be persuaded to come back to Europe to manage us? That video of his half time team talk against Argentina was amazing. Gave a good insight into his style, and how he can inspire a team. Considering he's a proven international manager outside of Europe with actual silverware, currently raking it in from oil-rich employers who hand out luxury cars for winning games, I'm thinking he's probably not looking to move to a mediocre northern European country who've only just qualified for their first tournament in twenty-odd years. But you'll say, "how do we know if we don't ask?", and someone else will say, "how do you know we haven't already asked?", "has he applied for the job before when it was advertised?", "is it true he's shagging Bruno Metsu's missus?", or "give Steve a chance with your new defensive system, FFS", and before we know it the second half's started and this is still the equivalent of Dryhorce asking why we haven't called up a Barcelona player whose Spanish granny once got pumped in Yoker. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, BFTD said: Considering he's a proven international manager outside of Europe with actual silverware, currently raking it in from oil-rich employers who hand out luxury cars for winning games, I'm thinking he's probably not looking to move to a mediocre northern European country who've only just qualified for their first tournament in twenty-odd years. But you'll say, "how do we know if we don't ask?", and someone else will say, "how do you know we haven't already asked?", "has he applied for the job before when it was advertised?", "is it true he's shagging Bruno Metsu's missus?", or "give Steve a chance with your new defensive system, FFS", and before we know it the second half's started and this is still the equivalent of Dryhorce asking why we haven't called up a Barcelona player whose Spanish granny once got pumped in Yoker. Hes actually been quoted recently saying "id love to manage Scotland one day, thats what im aiming for" "play 6 at the back and get the fans super excited" -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 According to Google, Herve Renard earns £950k (tax free) in Saudi Arabia. And that's not counting unexpected rolls royce based bonuses. Steve Clarke earns £500k (£270k take home). And maybe some free Irn Bru? They both have unspecified performance bonuses, but it's a good shout that Renards are much bigger. So the only way he will ever be managing Scotland if his career takes a pretty drastic downwards turn, or we get a super rich idiot to fund him like Ireland did with Trappatoni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loominous Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 The Japan and Saudi Arabia teams doing their best to make the people highlighting them for being more than the sum of their parts look a touch silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Hard to imagine Scotland losing to Costa Rica at a World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Hard to imagine Scotland losing to Costa Rica at a World Cup. I know a couple of young EPL fans who'd no idea that we'd lost to Costa Rica at a World Cup. One didn't even know his country had ever qualified before. I'm not sure whether to envy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: Hard to imagine Scotland losing to Costa Rica at a World Cup. I relive it every single fucking day, Mo & 'nally indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Great result for Costa rica today, their manager has them playing greater than the sum of their parts. Edited November 27, 2022 by BingMcCrosby -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 06/06/2022 at 11:58, velo army said: Aye I think international management is more suitable to an older candidate, someone who's had a career already. McLeish was still young and would have been unsatisfied with another campaign in a part time job. When it comes to suitable candidates to replace Clark (hypothetically, at the moment) I want the SFA to go down the FAI route and get third party funding to pay for a top candidate like they did with Trappatoni. Or at least fucking sell it as a prestigious job. And definitely not just give it to one of their pals. 12 hours ago, Satoshi said: According to Google, Herve Renard earns £950k (tax free) in Saudi Arabia. And that's not counting unexpected rolls royce based bonuses. Steve Clarke earns £500k (£270k take home). And maybe some free Irn Bru? They both have unspecified performance bonuses, but it's a good shout that Renards are much bigger. So the only way he will ever be managing Scotland if his career takes a pretty drastic downwards turn, or we get a super rich idiot to fund him like Ireland did with Trappatoni. That'll be the FAI straddled with debt due to having a allegedly fraudulent Chief Executive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 I doubt Scotland would have lost a group stage match to Croatia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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