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SlipperyP Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The day after has come very quick indeed. 3 hours sleep. I don't usually get onto the ABE bandwagon now, maybe as I don't live in Scotland anymore and can get away from the media coverage. Last night or eary morning I watched it on BBC. I don't think I have ever celebrated a goal that has not been a Forfar or Scotland, like a did with Italy. To the game, I was obviously watching something else than Jermain Jenas, apart from the first 20 min in the game and a 5 minute period in extra-time, England didn't have a kick of the ball. Italy fully deserved that, there can be no complaints. If Italy had won it by 2 goals, nobody would have thought any different. As for the penalties, You could see in the England huddle Southgate, telling the players (I think( who was taking them and which number to be taken (definitely what number). Really bad management. Which left a young 19 boy hanging out to dry. His subs, all of them came too late in the game. All in all great entertainment all round, and for my quiet a good tournament. Even seen a Saltire in the Italy side, which made me smile. See you all at the world cup. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, SlipperyP said: I don't think I have ever celebrated a goal that has not been a Forfar or Scotland, like a did with Italy. I surprised myself with the energy of my own celebration. Still on the bevvy, to be honest. Been joyously checking in with pals in different parts of the world with my fridge full of Tiger. What a day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said: I surprised myself with the energy of my own celebration. Still on the bevvy, to be honest. Been joyously checking in with pals in different parts of the world with my fridge full of Tiger. What a day. I have a Monday club get together with 6 expats, 2 English, 2 Welsh & 2 German. It will be interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, SlipperyP said: I have a Monday club get together with 6 expats, 2 English, 2 Welsh & 2 German. It will be interesting. I do feel slightly guilty. Three of my English pals here have already joined the zoom boozer (lockdown here) and they're all nice boys, so I don't want to rip the pish out them. I wish I knew some English bellends (ooh-err etc). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Veitch Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The relief is real. Don't think it's sunk in for them yet that this tournament was shaped up for them to win it and they've completely bottled it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I've not read the thread, I do hope 'arry Mcguire, long range passing has been mentioned. He would have been booed at Twickenham. It was Sunday league fitba at it worst. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Right wing bell end Andrew Neil should stick to subjects he knows about. Whatever that is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just watched it all again. Will probably watch it tomorrow as well. Some dunt, man. f**k every one of them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Arabdownunder said: Southgate's coaching limitations exposed. Seems to have a limited range of pre-planned substitutions and struggles to respond to how the game develops. After the first half hour it was clear that Italy had control of the game and he needed to change something. Southgate has got a fairly limited England to a semi final and a final and they have got there with an obvious managerial game plan. To only concede twice with a spine of Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Rice and Phillips is pretty good going and a coaching achievement. However at the end of the day Italy had better form, better performances, better players and a better manager. They were just a better overall team and that's not a Southgate limitation. If the English public think that all of a sudden they are footballing colossus and can play sexy football and load up the team with the likes of Foden, Grealish and Sancho then it will be back to getting pumped out early in competitions. England vastly overachieved at this tournament and, some good fortune aside, it was mostly down to Southgate's pragmatic choices. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arabdownunder Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Southgate has got a fairly limited England to a semi final and a final and they have got there with an obvious managerial game plan. To only concede twice with a spine of Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Rice and Phillips is pretty good going and a coaching achievement. However at the end of the day Italy had better form, better performances, better players and a better manager. They were just a better overall team and that's not a Southgate limitation. If the English public think that all of a sudden they are footballing colossus and can play sexy football and load up the team with the likes of Foden, Grealish and Sancho then it will be back to getting pumped out early in competitions. England vastly overachieved at this tournament and, some good fortune aside, it was mostly down to Southgate's pragmatic choices. Not entirely disagreeing with this. His coaching deficiency is not so much his selection and planning but his in-game management. Both the WC semi and yesterday, the opposition countered England's early pressure with some tactical tweaks. He struggles to do that when England are under pressure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Said to a couple of mates lastnight, the bile those three young men are going to face after missing those penalties is going to be something esle, and so it has already come to pass with the BBC running a story on Sancho, Rashford and Saka being racially abused already. Between that, booing the knee, the scenes before the game, Southgates dog whistle who won the war shite.... Is it really any wonder the world loves to see them fail. The England football fraternity is the most toxic enviroment know to man. Get it right fucking up them. As for the match, Southgate did a lot of things right over the tournament but ultimately, thinkning you can rope a dope for 85 minutes is a mega risky strategy because as we seen its so hard to get going again if you concede. As for the penalties, well that was a huge risk what he did. Rashford and Sancho cant have touched the ball or barely. Pretty hard to have your eye in in those circumstances. Anyway, get it up them and get it up Stormzy. A well deserved loss for a horrible, horrible fanbase. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only one David Marsh Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Watching the BBC this morning is glorious you could launch boaty mcboatface on the tears alone 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Work is going to be glorious today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: Pray for the Dobbies garden furniture. He should've signed a new deal at QoS and moved up to Scotland if he didn't want his furniture trashed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonHMFC Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Me currently having a clear out of all the Moretti I consumed last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Southgate has got a fairly limited England to a semi final and a final and they have got there with an obvious managerial game plan. To only concede twice with a spine of Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Rice and Phillips is pretty good going and a coaching achievement. However at the end of the day Italy had better form, better performances, better players and a better manager. They were just a better overall team and that's not a Southgate limitation. If the English public think that all of a sudden they are footballing colossus and can play sexy football and load up the team with the likes of Foden, Grealish and Sancho then it will be back to getting pumped out early in competitions. England vastly overachieved at this tournament and, some good fortune aside, it was mostly down to Southgate's pragmatic choices. They had an easy route to the final once again, most every single game played at Wembley, bar one.We have seen from previous tournaments held in England how much of an advantage that is to them. They rarely win knockout games in 90 minutes outside of England.They did well to only concede 2 but let's be honest, that papers over a lot of cracks. They gave away multiple chances in most games.Is it Southgates fault they didn't win last night? Partly. They had the Italians on the ropes in the first half albeit they scored with one of their only shots on goal. It was pretty much like for like with the Croatia game. Sat in deeper and deeper and looked more leggy the more the game went on.At the end of the day Italy were the best team in the tournament and were easily the better team once they got going last night but England had it in their grasp not once but twice. Total bottle job, again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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