Ludo*1 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Done this thread a few times over the years. The most recent Prem one I could find was back in 2018: So who out of our list of 12 managers was the best and who was the worst? There's a few (Big Ange) that I certainly have limited knowledge on so just taking a punt. Thread isn't to be taken too seriously, just ridicule everyone's list for putting a manager above your own. 1. Steven Gerrard 2. Callum Davidson 3. Malky Mackay 4. Graham Alexander 5. Stephen Glass 6. Robbie Neilson 7. James McPake 8. Jim Goodwin 9. Ange Postecogclou 10. Jack Ross 11. Tam Courts 12. David Martindale Some amount of dross until you get to the top 4. I've previously put McPake ahead of Neilson in a Championship list as they've had very similar careers. Goodwin could easily go above but he was just a clogger for me. Big Ange is the wildcard. I valued a cap for RoI which Goodwin has as better than 4 caps for Australia in 1986, but would happily bow down to anyone with superior knowledge on that front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Some amount of dross until you get to the top 4 Mon then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Can't argue with your list too much but Ange has to be lower than Jack Ross. He never played professionally. The quality of the list has dipped since 2018. Top 6/7 in 2018 had multiple league titles, trophies and English Premier League careers. Now you've got Callum Davidson 2nd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I'm waiting on someone posting "David Martindale Skills and Tricks (FROM INSIDE!)" to rocket him up to at least a solid 5th place. One of those really grainy highlight reels where he skins 3 folk and belts one in from 40 yards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I'm waiting on someone posting "David Martindale Skills and Tricks (FROM INSIDE!)" to rocket him up to at least a solid 5th place. One of those really grainy highlight reels where he skins 3 folk and belts one in from 40 yards Film Mean Machine is based on Martindale's life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I think I'd definitely have Alexander above Mackay. 40ish Scotland caps and a hugely successful club career with real longevity. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Are we judging exclusively on ability here or does overall career come into it? Mackay ahead of Alexander? Hmmmmmm.... Granted Mackay had a spell with Celtic but only 5 caps. Alexander had 1000+ career appearances including 981 league games and 40 international caps along with being an actual club legend at Preston and having a full season in the Barclays with Burnley. Plus his penalty record was exceptional. edit: @craigkillie beat me to it. Edited July 27, 2021 by capt_oats 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Callum Davidson was a great player without doubt. His achievements as a manager are already overshadowing anything he achieved as a player though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: Film Mean Machine is based on Martindale's life. Unfortunately so is Escape to Victory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Unfortunately so is Escape to Victory. And The Bird Man of Alcatraz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Malky no.1, a complete right-winger imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Was Stephen glass described as dross by the OP? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'd have Alexander above Malky. More caps and had more about him as a player despite Malky being a decent defender. There's then a big drop to Glass (admittedly injury ravaged) and Neilson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Was Stephen glass described as dross by the OP? My thoughts too. Malky is mid table at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Glass above Mackay. Alexander above both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Glass above Mackay. Alexander above both. Aye. Glass at Aberdeen and early days in Newcastle was excellent. Injuries cost him but a very good player. Goodwin was a much better player than McPake imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: Goodwin was a much better player than McPake imo Agreed. McPake was unlucky with injuries but rarely showed what he had. Also hasn't megged David Villa. Was Martindale not a fairly decent junior level player? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: Aye. Glass at Aberdeen and early days in Newcastle was excellent. Injuries cost him but a very good player. Goodwin was a much better player than McPake imo Newcastle also at that time were either a champions league or a champions league chasing team iirc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: Aye. Glass at Aberdeen and early days in Newcastle was excellent. Injuries cost him but a very good player. Goodwin was a much better player than McPake imo TBH I can't remember much about McPake and Goodwin. I was playing amateur football every Saturday when they were in their prime up here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) I bet when Stephen glass was awarded his man of the match Coca Cola bicycle on the hampden pitch back in 1995, he didn’t think that he’d have to tolerate some diddy on pie and bovril calling him dross 26 years later. Sad, very sad. Edited July 28, 2021 by Dons_1988 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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