RandomGuy. Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 49 minutes ago, sfha said: I tried watching the first episode and it was ok, then the hobbits with Irish accents appeared and I turned over! Is it worth sticking with? Hard to know yet. If you love tolkien stuff then stick with it to see the cities etc., the films didnt show. If you've no interest then im unsure. Its still building plots and characters just now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 On 07/09/2022 at 22:56, DA Baracus said: Aye Gandalf is at the battle of the Pelennor and then marches to Mordor and fights in the battle of the Black Gate, but barely seems to have a mark on his shiny white outfit. Yep, it's an obvious plot hole that 'Gandalf does an extra hot Persil cycle while resting between two battles' somehow didn't make the three hours director's cut of ROTK. Leaving aside the other minor detail that he's a fucking white wizard and so keeping clothes pristine is really not a challenge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 8 hours ago, virginton said: Yep, it's an obvious plot hole that 'Gandalf does an extra hot Persil cycle while resting between two battles' somehow didn't make the three hours director's cut of ROTK. Leaving aside the other minor detail that he's a fucking white wizard and so keeping clothes pristine is really not a challenge. It was a tough choice as to what to cut, so the Gandalf laundry scene didn't really stand a chance when up against better scenes such as Boromir ironing his tunic, Sam fluffing Frodo and Pippin mainlining heroin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 21 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Hard to know yet. If you love tolkien stuff then stick with it to see the cities etc., the films didnt show. If you've no interest then im unsure. Its still building plots and characters just now. I've read the main works, LOTR, Hobbit, Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales. The latter two are my favourites and am seriously hoping the series can live up to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 09/09/2022 at 22:20, RandomGuy. said: Glad Halbrand doesn't look like being Sauron, them trying to make him anything but evil will be awful. Charming etc, yes, but dont make him sympathetic Warg design as said was awful, a pointless change, while the horse riding scene was one of the worst things I've ever seen. Loving seeing all the places and characters though, the world is incredible. Yeah the warg did look weird, at a couple of points the CG almost looked stop-motion. Overall liked the episode quite a bit. The stuff with the harfoots is a bit dull at the moment but everything else was quite interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Thought the Warg was awful. Liked the design of the Orcs actually with the skull helmets. Not really enjoying this as a Tolkien adaptation much. As a generic fantasy show its middling to average. Will keep watching it in the hope it gets better. The Harfoots are boring and contradictory (nobody gets left behind...except you guy with the gammy leg and the annoying daughter, you get chucked to the back of the line and likely left behind). Werent Numenorians are meant to be taller than normal men? Yet Halbrand is the same height. And can boot f**k out of 5 of them. For a badge so he can work with the blacksmith. Galadriel is completely unlikeable. And a bit thick. Elendil is decent. Actor does a good job and so far one of the better characters. But large portions of the dialogue in this show is awful. Dosent feel like something Tolkien had anything to do with at times. Its bad fan fiction almost. Early theories Halbrand will end up as the Witch King or at least a Nazgul. Really long shot if he is Sauron. But if he is, then that Adar chap may be the Witch King. Meteor Man could be Olorin. So not strictly Gandalf... Celebrimbor will still be waiting outside Khazad-dûm. Celeborn will not get a mention this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I wasn't sure what to expect from this show before it started. I've enjoyed it though, entertaining and visually very impressive. They're condensing timelines from the books quite significantly in parts, but I'm on board for it if they tell the stories well. From chatting to a couple of mates who weren't as keen it seems they were just basically expecting Peter Jackson's style but in a tv show. I personally quite like seeing a different style from different artists and feel the casting has been decent on the whole. The LOTR trilogy was excellent, but it too made a lot of notable changes, some for the better and arguably some for the worse. And considering the fact that most of the further middle earth works were finished/compiled/created by Christopher Tolkien, I'm happy to except this is an impression of an impression to a certain extent. Liked the world building stuff for each of the races, actually got weirdly quite excited seeing new locations etc. Been enjoying most of the plot points and while I can appreciate that having less background knowledge may make it less interesting, seeing the development of what appears to be coming has been exciting for me at least. Pretty much agree with post above about Halbrand and Meteor man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Thought the Warg was awful. Liked the design of the Orcs actually with the skull helmets. Not really enjoying this as a Tolkien adaptation much. As a generic fantasy show its middling to average. Will keep watching it in the hope it gets better. The Harfoots are boring and contradictory (nobody gets left behind...except you guy with the gammy leg and the annoying daughter, you get chucked to the back of the line and likely left behind). Werent Numenorians are meant to be taller than normal men? Yet Halbrand is the same height. And can boot f**k out of 5 of them. For a badge so he can work with the blacksmith. Galadriel is completely unlikeable. And a bit thick. Elendil is decent. Actor does a good job and so far one of the better characters. But large portions of the dialogue in this show is awful. Dosent feel like something Tolkien had anything to do with at times. Its bad fan fiction almost. Early theories Halbrand will end up as the Witch King or at least a Nazgul. Really long shot if he is Sauron. But if he is, then that Adar chap may be the Witch King. Meteor Man could be Olorin. So not strictly Gandalf... Celebrimbor will still be waiting outside Khazad-dûm. Celeborn will not get a mention this season.There's also one theory that Meteor Man is Tom Bombadil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Tom Bombadil is a massive cretin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: There's also one theory that Meteor Man is Tom Bombadil. Hmm. Hes been around since the beginning and dosent seem to get involved with anything. Wouldnt make much sense so the rumour may be right! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Tom Bombadil is a massive cretin. ^^^ Old Man Willow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) On 06/09/2022 at 20:21, mishtergrolsch said: I actually laughed out loud at them leaving Celebrimbor outside. He must have walked for ages to get there and then just gets told he's not getting in and just walk back home on his own. It was fucking hilarious. Edited September 12, 2022 by Gordon EF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Third episode best by far - even the Harfoots are less annoying now. Numenor and Elendil stole it for me though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 If they do the Numenor story correctly its going to be absolutely outstanding, and so far its looking promising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Was wanting to see how the Harfoots got on with their journey and why have the dwarves got dodgy Scottish accents? It's getting a bit better but it's nowhere near the quality of the trilogy. And the warg looked like it came from a Terrahawks set. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, bennett said: Was wanting to see how the Harfoots got on with their journey and why have the dwarves got dodgy Scottish accents? The accents are a bit misguided in this, i think. Having the travelling hobbits speak Irish is an issue in itself, i think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Found Orla McCool's accent on Derry Girls much more distracting than anything that Lenny Henry & Co are doing in this series given they are quite clearly not trying to portray Irish people. The faux stage Irish accent is just being used as a way to distinguish the different races of Middle Earth. After a couple of minutes I got used to it. In a similar sort of way Sophia Nomvete's attempt at a Scottish accent would be problematic if she was trying to play Miss Jean Brodie or Senga fae the scheme but I don't find it difficult to deal with in the context of a female dwarf from Middle Earth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy1970 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Thoroughly impressed by it so far, and enthused by giving myself a wee cheat and reading Apoendices. Story is boiling along nicely and setting up some major plot developments 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 If the part calls for someone with a Scottish accent then they should use a Scottish actor. That’s the way things work now. They could pull in Shell Suit Bob or Elaine C Smith or one of the other top Scottish actors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Galadriel is an absolute arsehole. She's exactly why the Numenoreans hate elves, as she's arrogant, haughty, condescending and rude. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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