Neil86 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) After Hearts announcement yesterday, To (rightly) not sell tickets for the Motherwell game until the Scottish goverment provide clear guidance on how to implement this passport fiasco, is there grounds for clubs, i.e Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen to run as normal until proper guidance is put in place by the powers. i've had Hearts away pencilled in the diary for quite some time now, and would very much like to go. Edited September 21, 2021 by Neil86 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Did I miss another Ann Budge missive? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Did I miss another Ann Budge missive? From the club website Heart of Midlothian Football Club is well aware of the impact on supporters due to the current uncertainty surrounding COVID-19 vaccine passports and their proposed implementation at Scottish football stadiums. We are working closely with the SPFL, SFA, the Scottish Government and other clubs to ensure that our views are understood and considered. Until such a time that the Scottish Government issues clear guidance on how these measures can be safely and practically carried out at stadia, the club has taken the decision not to make matchday tickets available for Hearts’ upcoming cinch Premiership match with Motherwell. This has been done in an attempt minimise disruption should supporters purchase tickets before a detailed plan of action regarding vaccine passports and entry to the stadium is announced. We hope that our fans understand this decision, and we also hope that the Scottish Government provides this information as quickly as possible so that procedures can be put in place and tickets can go on sale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Think that's fair enough. Whether or not you agree with the broad policy its indefensible there is no clear guidance in place 10 days out from implementation 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Yep - I'd like to be there at the game but clubs need to know the basics from Govt (eg, do they need to check every person or just a percentage) and so Hearts are in the right here I think (and I'm sure part of this is to put pressure on the Govt and SPFL to finalise this). I would hope though that Hearts and the other affected clubs have some operational ideas in place about how they can implement different versions as the Govt are never going to supply that level of detail. Have we even seen any theoretical proposals from anyone about how to do this? Given that Vaccine take-up in the older cohorts is extremely high, do they treat this like buying bevvy and just target Under-25's for "ID"? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Budgies Massive Missive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) I really do hope that tickets will be available for Motherwell fans. Been there twice, once for Seedorfs stunner and another in the Scottish Cup. An easy away day as well. I have went to 2 away games this season and we lost both (2-0 airdrie and 1-0 dundee) so maybe it's best that I don't get to visit next weekend. Edited September 21, 2021 by Phillips455 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 From the latest Briefing; Spot checks required for football fans Nicola Sturgeon has confirmed that football clubs will not be expected to check every supporter's vaccine passport before they are allowed to enter a stadium on match day. The First Minister announced that large outdoor events such as music festivals and sports matches would instead be required to carry out "a reasonable number of checks". Football bosses had previously warned that asking every fan to prove their vaccine status before being allowed through a turnstile could cause massive queues on match days. I guess this give clubs the go ahead to organise a few extra stewards to pick folk at random and check them and more importantly get tickets on sale. shouldn't be too difficult to organise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Shouldn't in Theory. In practise it is probably going to be a bit of a mess but hopefully that is not the case. I will assume Hearts will begin the sales of tickets later this week once they have an idea of how to process these passports on their end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Has it been addressed if this is for capacity or attendance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Think we got a bit lucky with this rule if the checks are only for 10,000+ events, our capacity being 9,512 so even with a full house we're not required to comply (unless the rules have changed from last I'd heard) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Has it been addressed if this is for capacity or attendance? Attendance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: Attendance So this would realistically only effect 3 Dundee home games then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, johnnydun said: So this would realistically only effect 3 Dundee home games then. Possibly more if fans turn out for your relegation battle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ATLIS said: Think we got a bit lucky with this rule if the checks are only for 10,000+ events, our capacity being 9,512 so even with a full house we're not required to comply (unless the rules have changed from last I'd heard) c***s are only really bothering about events where younger folk hang out, to coerce them into getting double vaccinated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Attendance Easy then, reduce games to 9999 tickets and tell away fans to go f**k themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuggz Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Up until 9999 fans are in, they don't have to check anyone ? Then next person onwards can be checked. Even all ticket games, the attendance can't always be known beforehand as some don't turn up for various reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, shuggz said: Up until 9999 fans are in, they don't have to check anyone ? Then next person onwards can be checked. Even all ticket games, the attendance can't always be known beforehand as some don't turn up for various reasons. "Yes we'd sold 10,500 tickets but how were we do know they'd all decide to use those tickets" Tell that to the judge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 No c**t is going to do spot checks for vaccination passports at Ibrox and Celtic park, they're even too scared to tell them to sit down, or the polis going in the bogs and arrest them taking drugs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuggz Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: "Yes we'd sold 10,500 tickets but how were we do know they'd all decide to use those tickets" Tell that to the judge Lets say a game which would normally be expected to be c.10k,clubs could just print 9999 tickets and dodge the passport issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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