DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Another shite VAR decision against us tonight - at least justice was done when the penalty was saved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 It ultimately helped us, but get VAR in the bin. A complete clusterfuck all round today at Livi v Dundee. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Belgian league match now being replayed because of a VAR error. It's going well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68116985 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, eindhovendee said: Belgian league match now being replayed because of a VAR error. It's going well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68116985 What a genuinely awful precedent 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, eindhovendee said: Belgian league match now being replayed because of a VAR error. It's going well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68116985 What's great about VAR is it really clears up all the uncertainty. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, HibsFan said: What's great about VAR is it really clears up all the uncertainty. We were spending too long analysing questionable decisions, and VAR has changed that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, eindhovendee said: Belgian league match now being replayed because of a VAR error. It's going well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68116985 Much as I despise the VAR system, you just can’t do that. Bad enough waiting at a match for a decision to be overturned without coming away from a game and finding out later that it didn’t count. Fans money refunded? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, Miguel Sanchez said: We were spending too long analysing questionable decisions, and VAR has changed that. Maybe, but it wasn’t holding up the actual match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, kingjoey said: Maybe, but it wasn’t holding up the actual match. I only follow football through the internet. I don't see the issue in making sure all the decisions in a subjective, situational sport are 100% accurate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 42 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I only follow football through the internet. I don't see the issue in making sure all the decisions in a subjective, situational sport are 100% accurate. Ok, now we know you’re ‘avin’ a laff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 hours ago, eindhovendee said: Belgian league match now being replayed because of a VAR error. It's going well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68116985 In fairness, this isn't really a VAR error, it's a technical error by the referees. There were been games replayed for this exact thing before VAR was in place, most notably a World Cup play-off between Bahrain and Uzbekistan for the 2006 World Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: In fairness, this isn't really a VAR error, it's a technical error by the referees. There were been games replayed for this exact thing before VAR was in place, most notably a World Cup play-off between Bahrain and Uzbekistan for the 2006 World Cup. Not really, the error in 2006 was made by an on field referee that got a simple rule completely wrong. This decision with this one between between Anderlecht and Genk was made by the VAR team. Surely the point of VAR is to rule on a clear and obvious error which we can all understand a ref can make in real time, this is a clear and obvious error made by someone with a lot of time, and many replays. A waste of fucking time and an absolute blight on the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The VAR referees made the exact same mistake though. The point is that it wasn't a VAR problem, it was a bad referee problem. And I'm not saying that to defend VAR, but rather the total opposite, it doesn't matter how much technology you have, people will make mistakes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Replaying matches because of refereeing, or the VAR, mistakes is laughable. Quoting something that happened 18 years ago as a precedent and ignoring all the "technical errors" that have happened during these 18 years, is also laughable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamora Fan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Miovski’s brilliant finish at Tynecastle being disallowed for an innocuous trip in the build-up is yet another example of VAR basically taking away what would have been a great memory and moment for fans. These aren’t being replaced with new fond memories of VAR taking 5 minutes to award a penalty for the ball grazing someone’s hand. Even though this benefited Hearts in the moment, it’s something that affects every single team and every single match-going fan, and is gradually chipping away at what made all of us fall in love with the game. What is football without the magic moments of quality and spontaneous celebrations you still talk about years later? We’re getting less and less of those thanks to VAR. And unfortunately, this is a feature of having a VAR, rather than a bug. “Getting better refs to operate it” (from where?) or “running it more like in Germany” (its shit there too) or “eliminating referee bias” (Alex Jones-level bullshit) will not make VAR any less of a complete shit show that is ruining the game. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, kingjoey said: Replaying matches because of refereeing, or the VAR, mistakes is laughable. In Scotland, there would just be one endlessly replayed Old Firm game - a real life version of a Sky Sports subscription. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 47 minutes ago, Zamora Fan said: Miovski’s brilliant finish at Tynecastle being disallowed for an innocuous trip in the build-up is yet another example of VAR basically taking away what would have been a great memory and moment for fans. These aren’t being replaced with new fond memories of VAR taking 5 minutes to award a penalty for the ball grazing someone’s hand. Even though this benefited Hearts in the moment, it’s something that affects every single team and every single match-going fan, and is gradually chipping away at what made all of us fall in love with the game. What is football without the magic moments of quality and spontaneous celebrations you still talk about years later? We’re getting less and less of those thanks to VAR. And unfortunately, this is a feature of having a VAR, rather than a bug. “Getting better refs to operate it” (from where?) or “running it more like in Germany” (its shit there too) or “eliminating referee bias” (Alex Jones-level bullshit) will not make VAR any less of a complete shit show that is ruining the game. I mainly agree, but there was what should have been one absolutely epic VAR memory earlier in the season in the Saints v Aberdeen game. VAR correctly award Aberdeen a 95th minute penalty for handball. They ‘score’ with the last kick of the game to make it 2-2, and the Dons fans go wild. Saints fans gutted. The penalty was a double hit though, which VAR SHOULD have picked up. And if they had that would have been a pretty epic turnaround in emotions for both sets of fans. So in theory VAR could provide some fantastic memories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Zamora Fan said: Miovski’s brilliant finish at Tynecastle being disallowed for an innocuous trip in the build-up is yet another example of VAR basically taking away what would have been a great memory and moment for fans. These aren’t being replaced with new fond memories of VAR taking 5 minutes to award a penalty for the ball grazing someone’s hand. Even though this benefited Hearts in the moment, it’s something that affects every single team and every single match-going fan, and is gradually chipping away at what made all of us fall in love with the game. What is football without the magic moments of quality and spontaneous celebrations you still talk about years later? We’re getting less and less of those thanks to VAR. And unfortunately, this is a feature of having a VAR, rather than a bug. “Getting better refs to operate it” (from where?) or “running it more like in Germany” (its shit there too) or “eliminating referee bias” (Alex Jones-level bullshit) will not make VAR any less of a complete shit show that is ruining the game. I'd bin VAR tomorrow. The Miovski one isn't a great example to point to though, as it was a clear foul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, houston_bud said: I'd bin VAR tomorrow. The Miovski one isn't a great example to point to though, as it was a clear foul. It's a clear foul that had an impact on the goal, as it stops the cross/pass being closed down. But it's also on the linesman's side of the pitch, and the ref's not far away. It should have been given as a foul in the first place. VAR is resulting in a lot of responsibility being passed on by the officials. The whole thing is shite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 There has been a lot of moaning about VAR recently for things I think it has got right. I want rid of VAR too mind you but using recent examples where it is correct is a bit contradictory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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