FairWeatherFan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Maybe not big but potentially influential. Look at what Brechin's previous bleating about the boundary line has caused already. Throw Stenny, Albion Rovers, Cowden and Forfar down to tier 5 and their combined mewlings about how hard it is to get back in the SPFL might make those who remain act. Who knows right enough. This is the first season of having a full pyramid and I think a lot of folk are just waiting to get through a season of it before the question the set up with too much noise. Boundary issue is such a minor thing though. A big change like promotion/relegation might be a different matter. Especially if it means more money in the form of parachute payments. Although when it comes to Stenny. It does look like Iain McMenemy might be one to climb the blazeratti. He was on that working group for league reconstruction if I remember right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, jamamafegan said: There’s going to come a time that automatic relegation from League 2 is going to happen. You look at the number of teams looking to move up the system, the ambition they have and the standard they are playing at, there’s only so long the old guard can cling to their play-off safety net. Such an exciting time for Scottish football, I hope we can move on from all this pish over colt teams and boundaries sooner rather than later. You say an exciting time for Scottish football . That depends how far up the ladder the excitement extends. If it was as exciting as you make out , all the talks etc would be on the same pages as the Steve Gerrard , will he , won't he saga. I agree with the automatic relegation by the way and can't believe it has not been addressed before now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) See if(when) BSC Glasgow Alloa Broomhill get relegated, do they drop into the EOS or WOS? EOS? So what happens if(when) they get a ground in Glasgow? Edited November 11, 2021 by BS7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BS7 said: See if(when) BSC Glasgow Alloa Broomhill get relegated, do they drop into the EOS or WOS? EOS? So what happens if(when) they get a ground in Glasgow? There's no special arrangement. They'd be stuck in the East unless they wanted to start over in the West most likely. If they're ever relegated I'd imagine they'd scramble for something or give up the ghost. Edited November 11, 2021 by FairWeatherFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I don't want to say "accommodated" as they had as much right to be there than the ex junior lot but the WoSFL put Bonnyton right into the Premier League and have expanded the Premier League so no-one was denied promotion due to Covid. No one is forcing Kello into the SoS and Harthill were accepted in without any of the "is the stadium in West Lothian or Lanarkshire?" debate. If the long term aim for Broomhill is genuinely playing in the West I think the WoSFL would still let them in. Possibly with a deadline to find a ground? Alloa's still a fairly easy journey. They've been accommodating to clubs so far. Broomhill are, of course, a fucking shambles so they might not get the favour others have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: I don't want to say "accommodated" as they had as much right to be there than the ex junior lot but the WoSFL put Bonnyton right into the Premier League and have expanded the Premier League so no-one was denied promotion due to Covid. No one is forcing Kello into the SoS and Harthill were accepted in without any of the "is the stadium in West Lothian or Lanarkshire?" debate. If the long term aim for Broomhill is genuinely playing in the West I think the WoSFL would still let them in. Possibly with a deadline to find a ground? Alloa's still a fairly easy journey. They've been accommodating to clubs so far. Broomhill are, of course, a fucking shambles so they might not get the favour others have. Based on where they are located and the agreement between the WoS and EoS over their boundary, Broomhill will be relegated to the EoSFL. By the way. There was a debate around Harthill. They were given an exception due to their unique circumstances. All the other West Lothian teams that applied to the WoSFL, or showed an interest, were directed to the EoSFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravehearts dad Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 9 hours ago, BS7 said: See if(when) BSC Glasgow Alloa Broomhill get relegated, do they drop into the EOS or WOS? EOS? So what happens if(when) they get a ground in Glasgow? They won’t exist, they’ll fold. No fans, no ground, C’mon The Rose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlansHotBath Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 If Broomhill do go down, there is the potential for them to try to get into the West and ground share/build at a non-licensed ground, with the potential long-term goal of coming back to the LL after making the necessary upgrades. That of course would depend on the owner's appetite to run a 6th tier with no immediate hope of getting back to the 5th, which given they seem to have sacrificed their relationship with BSC for a say in the running of the Lowland, I am admittedly sceptical about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on shire Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I mind when the big question over Broomhill/BSC Glasgow was whether or not they were moving into Scotstoun. Are they though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Speaking of BSC Glasgow they're alive and well apparently. Good to know people are paying attention to the LL! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 00:22, BS7 said: See if(when) BSC Glasgow Alloa Broomhill get relegated, do they drop into the EOS or WOS? EOS? So what happens if(when) they get a ground in Glasgow? Let's just cross our fingers and hope they go bust before then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59262898?fbclid=IwAR1eYVPuAVE2C_bEsmNlqDRSQIGBXclTNraMIKJaN6jQVRkZOz9CDmFxgrQGood article about Bonnyrigg Rose, their manager making it very clear how he feels about the promotion play-offs and relegation from the Lowland League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlansHotBath Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59262898?fbclid=IwAR1eYVPuAVE2C_bEsmNlqDRSQIGBXclTNraMIKJaN6jQVRkZOz9CDmFxgrQ Good article about Bonnyrigg Rose, their manager making it very clear how he feels about the promotion play-offs and relegation from the Lowland League. Interesting article with a terrible closing pun, I'd no idea about the recent financial history. I do think it's only Colts-related nonsense hampering the play-offs that will stop them being promoted this season now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, AlansHotBath said: Interesting article with a terrible closing pun, I'd no idea about the recent financial history. I do think it's only Colts-related nonsense hampering the play-offs that will stop them being promoted this season now. Well there is also the matter of meeting SPFL membership criteria, namely the requirement for a safety certificate from the local council (something which is over and above licensing). As we've seen with Edinburgh City, the grass banking will be out of use in the SPFL, so there's some ground related work needed. (as detailed by Prorege on NLM) Didn't know about the financial situation either, suppose that explains their 10th place Superleague finish in 2009-10. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Ginaro said: the requirement for a safety certificate from the local council (something which is over and above licensing). As we've seen with Edinburgh City, the grass banking will be out of use in the SPFL Is that certain? Bonnyrigg's council = Midlothian, not City of Edinburgh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Is that certain? Bonnyrigg's council = Midlothian, not City of Edinburgh. I'm not certain but just presuming Midlothian will be the same, and will be working off the same guidance from the Green Guide? Assuming that says grass banking can't be used. Don't know of any SPFL grounds where grass banking is in place. (maybe Kelty but they have a path at the top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Worth bearing in mind prorege is a Cowdenbeath fan, who may not be heartbroken at the thought of Club 42 playoffs not happening due to a technicality. Some of the stuff he posted about the last set of playoffs certainly appeared consistent with that. Even without the grass banking, Bonnyrigg would have a decent enough capacity for League Two. One side and one end has hard standing with plenty of cover. He is also conviently ignoring the recent Official Catchup podcast tweet about the LL being forced to accept a boundary rule change that points to the colts team rule angle having been resolved. Edited November 14, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Worth bearing in mind prorege is a Cowdenbeath fan, who may not be heartbroken at the thought of Club 42 playoffs not happening due to a technicality. Some of the stuff he posted about the last set of playoffs certainly appeared consistent with that. Even without the grass banking, Bonnyrigg would have a decent enough capacity for League Two. One side and one end has hard standing with plenty of cover. He is also conviently ignoring the recent Official Catchup podcast tweet about the LL being forced to accept a boundary rule change that points to the colts team rule angle having been resolved. Ah, that explains the churlish comments about Bonnyriggs lack of style. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 21 hours ago, Ginaro said: Didn't know about the financial situation either, suppose that explains their 10th place Superleague finish in 2009-10. Might've been around the time they separated from the social club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Ginaro said: Don't know of any SPFL grounds where grass banking is in place. Borough Briggs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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