Kyle Reese Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, topcat(The most tip top) said: 5 subs means that you can keep a few to deal with emergencies like injuries and red cards so we should see teams making more tactical changes aside from splitting the workload for the wingers. If the back 3 is clearly not working then switching to a back 4 after 25 minutes is not longer the drastic course of action that it once was of course the opposition now have more scope to make a change in the remaining 65 minutes to counter your change but that just adds to the interest Indeed. I only used the wide forwards as my example because Neilson made the point specifically in an interview earlier in the season/pre-season. I've always felt that it was a bit daft to telegraph that to the rest of the league, but also that it doesn't leave much scope for forced changes. In a wider more general context, it should benefit us as a squad of players with options of similar quality. Your example of teh defence is a good one, but I always fear changing the defence around too much mid-game. Swapping the fullbacks/wingbacks is fine, but I see defence as the one part of the team that you only tamper with in emergencies. With our current midfielders of Beni, Devlin, Haring and McEneff, we have scope to rejig meaningfully as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Insaintee said: Some one plays them every week Some weeks that some one is the other one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Some weeks that some one is the other one The other one is still someone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Not the same sort of someones as the rest of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 13/01/2022 at 17:15, bennett said: Changing the rules mid season, it's amateur hour again. I find myself agreeing with Bennet on something. I feel unclean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin McCann Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 So there's a possibility of a game being stopped 10 times for substitutions. Great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Austin McCann said: So there's a possibility of a game being stopped 10 times for substitutions. Great. Will it not be the same as last time where you could only stop it thrice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin McCann Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, coprolite said: Will it not be the same as last time where you could only stop it thrice? I don't know but i hope so. The time wasting could be mental if not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Austin McCann said: So there's a possibility of a game being stopped 10 times for substitutions. Great. 3 stops plus half time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, bennett said: 3 stops plus half time. Concussion subs over and above this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 13/01/2022 at 16:39, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Since Motherwell, with our huge and amazing squad voted against it. It means 2 of St Mirren, Livingston, Dundee and St Johnstone voted for it despite not having 10 decent players, never mind 16. Dunno Motherwell are always desperate to take our cast offs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, ropy said: Concussion subs over and above this? Yes, those are exceptional emergency substitutions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Yes, those are exceptional emergency substitutions. If Team A uses one of these emergency substitutions then Team B is allowed an extra sub, would this allow a fourth stoppage by Team B? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ropy said: If Team A uses one of these emergency substitutions then Team B is allowed an extra sub, would this allow a fourth stoppage by Team B? Your extra sub needs used when team A use their concussion sub. So no extra stoppage in the game Edited January 16, 2022 by parsforlife 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 What is the official reason being given for upping subs from 3 to 5 due to Covid? I can't see the reasoning behind it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The clubs voted for it. Presumably because the extra postponed games due to the extended shutdown leads to more fixture congestion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, parsforlife said: Your extra sub needs used when team A use their concussion sub. So no extra stoppage in the game Unless this is a specifically different rule for Scottish football (which I'm not sure is allowed), then this isn't true. The IFAB protocol says this extra sub can be used at any point afterwards. https://www.datocms-assets.com/43623/1624965681-concussion-substitutes-protocol-b.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Unless this is a specifically different rule for Scottish football (which I'm not sure is allowed), then this isn't true. The IFAB protocol says this extra sub can be used at any point afterwards. https://www.datocms-assets.com/43623/1624965681-concussion-substitutes-protocol-b.pdf Oh FFS seams the subs rules are even more insane than I’d previously thought. From that a concussion sub gives an additional stoppage. So instead of 3/5 subs from 3 stoppages, we have 4/6 from 4 or 5/7 from 6. Don’t want to attack concussion subs, though they could be tightened up, as they have player safety at heart. But 5 subs has always been fucking insanity and the fact it’s still being pursued at this stage is really worrying. It’s clearly not really about covid and looks to be something that will become permanently part of our game to its detriment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Put money on County changing their mind, we've been shitebags for everything else this season. What's one more for the road? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This should hsve waited till the summer, changing a rule like this mid season is wild at best The league board need to be stronger and more demanding of the clubs in a situation like this and make them wait till the summer for rule changes like this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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