SuperSaints1877 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what is going on, I hope as many of those poor buggers got out as possible. It's a horrible, horrible way to die. My absolute worst nightmare. There have been far worse ways to die during this conflict. These guys signed up for duty. I can’t even begin to imagine how it must be to be a Ukrainian farmer who is tortured, then have to watch while your wife and daughters are raped and then killed in front of your eyes before being executed. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 You wonder how long the Russian government can keep up the pretence that everything is going to plan when things like this happen. It must be the first sinking in the history of naval warfare where both sides have claimed responsiblity. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Anyone in Russia who follows the whole "you're legally not allowed to call this a war" is an absolute moron. If you're restricted free speech, use your brain ffs. I'm sure many Russians realise this but the amount who don't? Fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Good news being reported The fire on the ship is now apparently out 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Good news being reported The fire on the ship is now apparently out It being underwater probably helped put the fire out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: It being underwater probably helped put the fire out. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 yep, certainly looks under control. I would be remaining calm if I were a Belgorod resident. that’s the train station apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, ICTChris said: yep, certainly looks under control. I would be remaining calm if I were a Belgorod resident. that’s the train station apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSaints1877 said: There have been far worse ways to die during this conflict. These guys signed up for duty. I can’t even begin to imagine how it must be to be a Ukrainian farmer who is tortured, then have to watch while your wife and daughters are raped and then killed in front of your eyes before being executed. They are full-time professional sailors, but that doesn't mean that they will all be in favour of embarking on some despot's idea of a genocide dressed up as a denazification. If you watched the Russian soldiers captured in the early days who were interviewed on camera, it's obvious they realised pretty damned quickly that they've been led up the garden path. I don't see how being on the 'wrong' side of a conflict instigated by a madman makes anyone's death any less sad or pointless. It isn't a game of top-trumps when it comes to casualties. It's all absolutely needless, and every person killed, regardless of how, by who, or for whatever reason, is nothing to be happy about. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Well one thing is for sure i can see this getting worse before it gets better...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 There have been far worse ways to die during this conflict. These guys signed up for duty.Quite a few are conscripts, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Quite a few are conscripts, no? I could be absolutely wrong here, but I'd hazard a guess that in the particular case of the Moskva, no, because Russian national service is only mandatory for one year, and generally speaking armed forces the world over don't bother putting conscripted soldiers into technical roles, or on pieces of advanced kit where they are going to require a degree of training, when they know the bulk of them will f**k off back to civvy street after one year. Definitely none in the Sub service. They cut down from three full-time crews per boat to two years and years ago, but those guys are all full pro sailors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, red23 said: Well one thing is for sure i can see this getting worse before it gets better...... You could say that about any thread TBF. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Air raid sirens wailing across every region of Ukraine right now. Could be a very long night, with three explosions being reported in Kyiv. Тримайся! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: There are reports that 54 sailors from the Moskva were picked up by a Turkish vessel. Did they claim asylum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Did they claim asylum? The demanded a Fry's Turkish Delight first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: The demanded a Fry's Turkish Delight first. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, SuperSaints1877 said: Surely the Ukrainian fishermen deserve some Russian equipment too... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 That fekkin ship going down is about the only thing distracting me from the Rangers re-runs at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Stellaboz said: Anyone in Russia who follows the whole "you're legally not allowed to call this a war" is an absolute moron. If you're restricted free speech, use your brain ffs. I'm sure many Russians realise this but the amount who don't? Fucking hell. The Falklands War was never a war until it was over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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