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2 hours ago, FreedomFarter said:

I didn't like the Kosovo War diversion I contributed to but I was responding to replies each time. I bother with replies because I'd rather have my comments corrected than potentially misinform with them if I've got things wrong.

That Strichener is feigning the concerned onlooker thing. He's in the huff with me due to disagreement in a different thread so jumped in here.

Am I?  I didn't even know.

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13 hours ago, strichener said:

Am I?  I didn't even know.

Downvotes by you in the gender thread followed by a profile view (which shows my posting history) right before your intervention in this thread. Anyway, who cares, leave it be now.

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38 minutes ago, FreedomFarter said:

Downvotes by you in the gender thread followed by a profile view (which shows my posting history) right before your intervention in this thread. Anyway, who cares, leave it be now.

Wow, someone is rather fragile.  I am not sure if the profile views show how long someone was visiting as I clicked your in error (a result of the constant movement in the mobile as pages load).  I have never purposely viewed any profiles on here.

As for downvotes...🙄

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40 minutes ago, Steven W said:

Some cheek..

 

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Russia's interest in Sudan is to extract gold, something they've been doing for a while now. Wagner ensures control over mining by massacring any native or migrant workers that get in the way.

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1 hour ago, FreedomFarter said:

Russia's interest in Sudan is to extract gold, something they've been doing for a while now. Wagner ensures control over mining by massacring any native or migrant workers that get in the way.

You're not telling me these wagner lads are up to no good? Surely not.

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26 minutes ago, Sweet Pete said:

You're not telling me these wagner lads are up to no good? Surely not.

Wagner have also helped train Sudanese paramilitaries in the last decade. I'm not going to pretend to understand the situation in Sudan but I'm confident Russian input won't have gone any way towards improving things.

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2 minutes ago, FreedomFarter said:

Wagner have also helped train Sudanese paramilitaries in the last decade. I'm not going to pretend to understand the situation in Sudan but I'm confident Russian input won't have gone any way towards improving things.

Pretty disappointed tbqhwy. They seemed like such nice, polite young men.

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One last thing of note on Sudan-Russia relations; a deal was agreed in February this year for Russia to build a naval base in Sudanese Red Sea waters. 

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1 hour ago, FreedomFarter said:

One last thing of note on Sudan-Russia relations; a deal was agreed in February this year for Russia to build a naval base in Sudanese Red Sea waters. 

Not quite. The military has said their preconditions have been met (weapons, etc), but the actual deals is on hold pending the establishment of a parliament and civilian government to ratify the agreement. Until then, it’s a proposal.

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Regarding Wagner, there have been recordings leaked of Wagner mercenaries talking of how they carried out orders to murder civilians, children, how they killed PoWs and shot Russian soldiers who refused to advance.  

In Bakhmut, it seems that the threat of encirclement has receded but Russian forces are pressing through the city.  There's a video release, I'll put it below, of Ukrainian forces blowing up a building they've retreated from - the building is genolocated and shows that most of the city itself is now in Russian hands.  Girkin did a video today saying that Wagner ran out of men in Bakhmut and are now being reinforced with mobilsed and regular Russian troops, something that's been hinted at for a while.  Certainly the Russian VDV (paratroopers) are more active in the fight for Bakhmut.  Girkin hates Prigozhin and Wagner though so take it all with a pinch of salt.

Putin has visited occupied Kherson, meeting a few placement.  Zelensky visited the front line at Avdivka - one of the villages in the YouTube video earlier on this page, where traveller, Youtuber and weird creep bald and bankrupt visited.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/18/india-russia-talks-free-trade-agreement-deal-ukraine

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In a development likely to add to tensions in Washington, London and EU capitals, Russia and India’s trade ministers said on Monday the two countries were in talks to strike a free trade deal.

Two sovereign states on the other side of the world doing a trade deal and the usual suspects are buckling themselves. 

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This is really just Twitter shite and translates into very little of material consequence. Perhaps a minor amount of extra private donations are solicited off the back of these videos but that'll be it. It's really just fan service for Americans. Anyway, the top right of the screen for the duration of that video clip features the flag of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, who were abbreviated as UPA. The UPA, Ukrainian nationalists, spent the 1940s murdering as many innocent people as they could. Among their victims were the Poles of Volhynia and Eastern Galicia with between 50 000 and 100 000 of them slaughtered by the UPA in 1943 - 1945. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

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Most of the victims were women and children. Many of the Polish victims, regardless of age or gender, were tortured before being killed; some of the methods included rape, dismemberment or immolation, among others.

My principle is that all responsibility for the reaction of the invaded to their invasion rests with the invaders. So in this case, Russia and their invasion is entirely to blame for the resurrection of such historical sentiments among the people they've invaded. 

It's a very stupid look for that U24 group, though. All the comradely greetings of Slava Ukraini look a bit daft when there's a flag there honouring the massacres of Polish women and children. It remains a sore point between Poland and Ukraine with the former ruling the massacres as genocide to the latter's disagreement.

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