Ray Patterson Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Thread name needs changed to Russian invasion of Russia imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Also kicking off now with a few videos of skirmishes breaking out in Rostov. Edited June 24, 2023 by Ray Patterson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Several reports that Wagner have taken the city of Rostov. A helicopter appears to have crashed in the area, with reports that it was shot down. Also that Rostov is one of the main logistical hubs for Russian forces, so Wagner will have potentially gained access to a frightening amount of additional military equipment. They’ll now control the main supply lines into Ukraine from the east. Reports and videos surfacing online of fighting around Voronezh, which is half way to Moscow. We could literally be witnessing the start of civil war in Russia. It would appear Lukashenko’s private jet took off late last night from Minsk. A quick stop off in Moscow, before landing in Turkey. Bizarre movements in the middle of the night from one of Putin’s top allies. Edited June 24, 2023 by MONKMAN 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, MONKMAN said: It would appear Lukashenko’s private jet took off late last night from Minsk. A quick stop off in Moscow, before landing in Turkey. Bizarre movements in the middle of the night from one of Putin’s top allies. Couple of possibilities… -Loaned to high level figures bailing out to one of the few places available. -Transfer of high value goods. -Lukashenko going to Turkey for better medical care…but leaves the Moscow stop question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Letting a highly-trained mercernary group and their mad ex-con commander do what they want for 18 months was definitely never going to end this way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Letting a highly-trained mercernary group and their mad ex-con commander do what they want for 18 months was definitely never going to end this way. Getting them to waste their resources fighting in Bakhmut might be a masterstroke though. Wagner seem to be having better luck at taking towns in Russia than Ukraine. Edited June 24, 2023 by sparky88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doulikefish Posted June 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2023 The brain trust will be along soon to tell us that Putin needs to give up Rostov and other parts of Russia to keep Wagner happy 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 How typically Scottish that just as soon as we get good and are shoo ins to win Euro 2024, a Russian civil war ending up with all out nuclear war starts up, depriving us of seeing Andy Roberston hold the trophy aloft. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Putin to make announcement soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) There doesn't seem to be much fighting so far. How does Prigozhin just waltz through the heavily populated Donbas and into Rostov and send a column up to Voronezh if he doesn't have at least tacit support from a significant portion of the regular Russian military under Shoigu's chain of command? Why are so many Wagner troops willing to follow this nutter's orders even though a leading general was on Russian TV urging them to arrest him? The obvious parallel is maybe with 1917 when Russia's armed forces no longer wanted to fight WWI. Edited June 24, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 There are videos of Prigozhin having discussions in Rostov-on-Don with the deputy defence minister and the regional head of the VDV. Putins address to the nation delayed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Feels like there's a significant chance Putin jumps on a plane to get out of there. Edited June 24, 2023 by charger29 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Is this Prigozhin attempting to seize control of Russia's military and have Putin as a puppet President? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 So whatever happens this has to play out to the end now ,Prigozhin has passed the point of no return 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 52 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Why are so many Wagner troops willing to follow this nutter's orders even though a leading general was on Russian TV urging them to arrest him? The obvious parallel is maybe with 1917 when Russia's armed forces no longer wanted to fight WWI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Putin speaking now. Says the action is treason and the perpetrators will be punished. Calls Wagner heroes for fighting in Soledad and Bakhmut. Compares it to the end of the First World War. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Putin isn’t for backing down. This is going to get ugly. Having said that, who is going to fight for Putin? There are numerous reports and examples of MoD units refusing to fight Wagner. The response of the FSB, GRU and other internal troops will determine what happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I believe it's popcorn time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Russian channels reporting that Ukrainian marines are attacking around Bakhmut, no doubt taking advantage of the chaos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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