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1 minute ago, S7C said:

It’s not over. You don’t just start a mutiny in Russia and forget about it after a couple of phone calls.

Wouldn't be surprised if they keep going.

Only other thing that makes sense is that it was all a big hoax to get the Ukrainians to do something rash and they didn't take the bait. If it was a genuine mutiny and they really are returning to their bases I seriously doubt Prigozhin will still be alive by Monday.

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Just now, Musketeer Gripweed said:

Putin making deals with terrorist group shows a real position of strength. I'm sure his military leaders and the general public will so him as the real glorious leader here.

He is toast.

Mercenaries, not Terrorists.

Putin has the added indignity of still paying them to do his work for him.

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1 minute ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

OK, coup over but what if Wagner don't fancy taking on the Ukrainians exactly as before ?  Or are we to assume that the last 24 hours never actually happened ?  Whatever tonight's shakeout is I don't think this has been a great day for Putin and his war.

It's definitely not a good look for Putin. He's shown that he's not an invincible strongman  and that some people can extort concessions from him. Plus any student of Machiavelli knows that if you make yourself an internal enemy and you haven't killed him, you have to disempower them. Unless Putin has a plan in place to neutalize them soon (and this was sparked off by Putin trying to nationalize the Wagner group in the first place so that's out of the question), the Wagner group can pull this stunt again the next time they want something.

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