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3 hours ago, ICTChris said:

I don't think Igor Sushko is very reliable.

Definitely in Michael MacKay and Anders Aslund sort of territory in letting heart rule head a little too often to be worth listening to. Tend to steer clear of Denys the former pilot on youtube for similar reasons. Worst of the lot though is Chuck Pfarrer the former Navy Seal and prolific creator of highly misleading graphics.

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10 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

It must be close (if it hasn't happened yet) to the point where your average Josef Smozov starts thinking "isn't that the opposite of what they told us last week?" rather than just swallowing whatever bullshit they shovel towards them?

Oh,I'm sure a lot of Russian people are perfectly aware. They will say things at the dining table they would not dream of saying at work or in a wider audience.

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52 minutes ago, jagfox said:

Oh,I'm sure a lot of Russian people are perfectly aware. They will say things at the dining table they would not dream of saying at work or in a wider audience.

Aye, the state is totalitarian now when it comes to the public expression of anti-war sentiment. 

Man jailed for 5 years in March for a comment in a private VKontakte hobby group. Another group member had grassed him: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/29/st-petersburg-man-given-5-years-for-comments-made-on-archeology-forum-a80654

This man put up posters advertising a phone number Russian conscripts can call to surrender to Ukrainian authorities. He was arrested, tortured then beaten to death by police earlier this month: https://russianlife.com/the-russia-file/he-warned-police-would-kill-him-he-is-dead/

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1 hour ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

It must be close (if it hasn't happened yet) to the point where your average Josef Smozov starts thinking "isn't that the opposite of what they told us last week?" rather than just swallowing whatever bullshit they shovel towards them?

Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

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9 hours ago, FreedomFarter said:

Aye, the state is totalitarian now when it comes to the public expression of anti-war sentiment. 

Man jailed for 5 years in March for a comment in a private VKontakte hobby group. Another group member had grassed him: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/29/st-petersburg-man-given-5-years-for-comments-made-on-archeology-forum-a80654

This man put up posters advertising a phone number Russian conscripts can call to surrender to Ukrainian authorities. He was arrested, tortured then beaten to death by police earlier this month: https://russianlife.com/the-russia-file/he-warned-police-would-kill-him-he-is-dead/

Prigozhin shot down six or seven Russian aircraft and he gets a holiday to Belarus. Nice.

 

One thing I read about Russian opinion that was worth sharing was when the independent anti-Kremlin outlet Medusa surveyed their readers who support the war and asked why. The reasons are interesting. Bear in mind these are people reading an anti-Kremlin publication that is difficult to access and has taken a stance against the war and against war propaganda.

https://meduza.io/amp/en/feature/2023/06/03/the-only-thing-worse-than-war-is-losing-one

 

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11 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Prigozhin shot down six or seven Russian aircraft and he gets a holiday to Belarus. Nice.

 

One thing I read about Russian opinion that was worth sharing was when the independent anti-Kremlin outlet Medusa surveyed their readers who support the war and asked why. The reasons are interesting. Bear in mind these are people reading an anti-Kremlin publication that is difficult to access and has taken a stance against the war and against war propaganda.

https://meduza.io/amp/en/feature/2023/06/03/the-only-thing-worse-than-war-is-losing-one

 

I just read over that. Interesting that the consensus is pretty much we started so we'll finish

 

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BBC feature on US political consultant, George Birnbaum, who they call a godfather of modern populism. He's credited for devising Viktor Orban's successful 2010 campaign strategy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66065550

 

It reminds me of his fellow US political consultant Paul Manafort, a key figure in Trump's 2016 campaign. Prior to Trump, Manafort had been instrumental in Victor Yanukovych's rise to power in Ukraine. As we now know, it was under Yanukovych that an ominous fault line in Ukrainian politics opened up:

https://eurasianet.org/a-brief-history-of-corruption-in-ukraine-the-yanukovych-era

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