ICTChris Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 More bad news for Russia on the economic front. Quote China's state-run Sinopec Group has suspended talks for a major petrochemical investment and a gas marketing venture in Russia, sources told Reuters, heeding a government call for caution as sanctions mount over the invasion of Ukraine. The move by Asia's biggest oil refiner to hit the brakes on a potentially half-billion-dollar investment in a gas chemical plant and a venture to market Russian gas in China highlights the risks, even to Russia's most important diplomatic partner, of unexpectedly heavy Western-led sanctions. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exclusive-chinas-sinopec-pauses-russia-projects-beijing-wary-sanctions-sources-2022-03-25/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The Americans think the Russians will try to surround the Ukrainian forces on the Eastern Front, cutting them off from support and supplies, and then offer them up as a bargaining chip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Hopefully the start of the face saving exercise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Bairn Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Yes this is going completely to plan, we always wanted to give Ukraine more tanks than they started with, get rid of the Generals we didn't want and to rid Russia of all the Fast Food chains. Wait until you hear stage 2, it is even more mental... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-10-point-plan-save-ukraine/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy Blonde Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Hopefully the start of the face saving exercise 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) I'm sure that the Russians would have loved to waltz into Kiev uncontested early doors, but if you don't take the latest American 'analysis' with a similarly large shovel of salt as the Russians' military fucking press conference in the middle of a war then you're not engaging your brain either. The West so far has just thrown 7 totally different 'Russian war plans' into the public domain, each sussed out by their top notch defence intelligence. With the aim of taking the credit if even one of them ends up close to the mark; as all those utterly bogus "30 mile armoured convoy - imminent assault on Kiev!!!" warnings bear witness to already. Edited March 25, 2022 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) A map of the fronts published by the French ministry of defence today. Edited March 25, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 They clearly spread their forces too thin and didn't expect such fierce resistance. Going for a quick decapitation in Kiev is logical, but they've made a rip roaring c**t of it. Had they concentrated their forces in the south and east, they'd probably be strolling it by now with a fraction of the losses. We're all 5 star generals with the benefit of hindsight though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) The BBC going outright Nazi is one twist I definitely didn't see coming. Edited March 25, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 What, the death's head badge is Nazi? Tell that to the Royal Lancers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: They clearly spread their forces too thin and didn't expect such fierce resistance. Going for a quick decapitation in Kiev is logical, but they've made a rip roaring c**t of it. Had they concentrated their forces in the south and east, they'd probably be strolling it by now with a fraction of the losses. We're all 5 star generals with the benefit of hindsight though. Not fully convinced by this; the fixation on the 'threat to Kiev' and Belarus' intervention (both of which have been promised about 17 times by Western intelligence so far) will likely have tied down significant forces far away from the southern and eastern fronts where they could stem the tide. While there's no doubt the Russian military has made a fair c**t of it (par for the course, incidentally, in their history of early stages of warfare), digging in around Kiev rather than lolloping straight into the city centre as pundits were breathlessly predicting a few weeks is not a terrible move. Edited March 25, 2022 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 No idea who this is, but he’s saying Shoigu has had a heart attack 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 My Death's Head Neo Nazi symbol t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the shirt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: No idea who this is, but he’s saying Shoigu has had a heart attack His daughter uploaded a video onto on social media wearing a Ukrainian dress. 3 other facts about him - He died. He's dead. He ain't living no more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Unbelievable that no one screens who our ministers are speaking to, or if they are it's a shoddy job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Newbornbairn said: What, the death's head badge is Nazi? Tell that to the Royal Lancers The particular deaths head in detourments post is,without doubt,a Nazi symbol-it was the collar insignia of the 3rd ss division totenkopf&was also I believe the collar insignia worn by concentration camp guards(from whom the 3rd ss wete originally from).quite why detourement thinks this makes the BBC Nazis isnt apparant to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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