Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Detournement]

 

A new level of disinformation.

[welshbairn]

[Shandon Par]

11 minutes ago, highlandcowden said:

The particular deaths head in detourments post is,without doubt,a Nazi symbol-it was the collar insignia of the 3rd ss division totenkopf&was also I believe the collar insignia worn by concentration camp guards(from whom the 3rd ss wete originally from).quite why detourement thinks this makes the BBC Nazis isnt apparant to me

Because he’s stuck in a rabbit hole?

[Wee-Bey]

I think Jimmy on twitter has already denazified Dundee.

[beefybake]

2 hours ago, virginton said:

I'm sure that the Russians would have loved to waltz into Kiev uncontested early doors, but if you don't take the latest American 'analysis' with a similarly large shovel of salt as the Russians' military fucking press conference in the middle of a war then you're not engaging your brain either. 

The West so far has just thrown 7 totally different 'Russian war plans' into the public domain, each sussed out by their top notch defence intelligence. With the aim of taking the credit if even one of them ends up close to the mark; as all those utterly bogus "30 mile armoured convoy - imminent assault on Kiev!!!" warnings bear witness to already. 

And your point is ?

 

[Theroadlesstravelled]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Smith said:

I enjoyed this:

 

The US particularly, but also the UK, have absolutely no right to lecture anybody about morality. In addition to what the Indian gentleman above states, both of us sell weapons to the Saudis, who have had their own 'special military operation' in Yemen:

The Americans also support Israel, which has treated the Palestinians appallingly. Victor Ostrovsky, a fromer Mossad agent, even claims that the Israelis experimented on Palestinians - testing weapons on them (see middle paragraph).

 

Given all the conflicts this century, why the Western media suddenly care so much about the Ukrainians, is anyone's guess. Is it because Russia is perceived as a geopolitical rival? Is it because Ukrainians are white? Is it because it's one of the few wars in which we, or our allies, are not actively involved and therefore we can afford to be sanctimonious?

 

What was worth the lives of 500,000 kids, again?

[Theroadlesstravelled]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Smith said:

 

Self-portrait?

Nah that's you mate.

The Houthis are terrorists. Ukrainian civilians are not.

 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

You conveniently choose to ignore Israel and the 500,000 kids. I suppose even an imbecile like you knows it's unjustifiable.
What Putin did is wrong, but us and the Americans have done worse. We've f**ked Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria up the arse, with no lube....to use an analogy that you might understand, and created the vacuum which ISIS filled. Then there's Israel...
The thing is Blair gets a knighthood, and nobody else really gave a shit. The hypocrisy stinks, and the people responsible for this stuff get away with it because of drooling, cretinous c***s like you, who're too fucking stupid to notice...unless it's all on the TV and in the papers. And yet now you're crying about Ukraine.
And you're not my mate.

The fucking nick of this [emoji23]

[Highlandmagar]

7 hours ago, Mr. Smith said:

I enjoyed this:

 

The US particularly, but also the UK, have absolutely no right to lecture anybody about morality. In addition to what the Indian gentleman above states, both of us sell weapons to the Saudis, who have had their own 'special military operation' in Yemen:

The Americans also support Israel, which has treated the Palestinians appallingly. Victor Ostrovsky, a fromer Mossad agent, even claims that the Israelis experimented on Palestinians - testing weapons on them (see middle paragraph).

 

Given all the conflicts this century, why the Western media suddenly care so much about the Ukrainians, is anyone's guess. Is it because Russia is perceived as a geopolitical rival? Is it because Ukrainians are white? Is it because it's one of the few wars in which we, or our allies, are not actively involved and therefore we can afford to be sanctimonious?

 

What was worth the lives of 500,000 kids, again?

The Indians having a go at the Americans is rich. The atrocities committeed by the Indian Army in Kashmir are reprehensible as is what America, UK, Germany, Russia, Japan, China etc have done.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

5 hours ago, Mr. Smith said:

You conveniently choose to ignore Israel and the 500,000 kids. I suppose even an imbecile like you knows it's unjustifiable.

What Putin did is wrong, but us and the Americans have done worse. We've f**ked Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria up the arse, with no lube....to use an analogy that you might understand, and created the vacuum which ISIS filled. Then there's Israel...

The thing is Blair gets a knighthood, and nobody else really gave a shit. The hypocrisy stinks, and the people responsible for this stuff get away with it because of drooling, cretinous c***s like you, who're too fucking stupid to notice...unless it's all on the TV and in the papers. And yet now you're crying about Ukraine.

And you're not my mate.

 

[vikingTON]

9 hours ago, beefybake said:

And your point is ?

 

That Western analysts are peddling as much shite analysis/outright fabrications about the progress of the war as the Russian side.

So you should try engaging your brain to sift out the most probable accounts from the nonsense. 

[eez-eh]

I see Albion Saint has dropped the half-hearted “nice but dim” act and just gone full on raging idiot.

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:

The Indians having a go at the Americans is rich. The atrocities committeed by the Indian Army in Kashmir are reprehensible as is what America, UK, Germany, Russia, Japan, China etc have done.

If the Indian Army was committing atrocities in Quebec or doing extrajudicial executions in Mexico City via a drone operator in Hyderabad then your comparison would make sense.

The US is an imperial power in every part of the world and India is not. It is a relatively benevolent imperial power on any historical scale, but that imperium is still an issue that Indians as much as anyone else are entitled to object to. It's not surprising that one of the early centres of the Non-Aligned Movement during the height of the Cold War looks sideways at this replay taking place on the other side of Eurasia - and it's not just down to 'Russian arms deals'. 

[vikingTON]

3 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

I see Albion Saint has dropped the half-hearted “nice but dim” act and just gone full on raging idiot.

Repatriation to the Saint Mirren forum would be the best thing for these online refugees IMO.

[welshbairn]

It's outrageous that we're criticising Russia for shelling Ukrainian cities, Genghis Khan did far worse.

[Highlandmagar]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

If the Indian Army was committing atrocities in Quebec or doing extrajudicial executions in Mexico City via a drone operator in Hyderabad then your comparison would make sense.

The US is an imperial power in every part of the world and India is not. It is a relatively benevolent imperial power on any historical scale, but that imperium is still an issue that Indians as much as anyone else are entitled to object to. It's not surprising that one of the early centres of the Non-Aligned Movement during the height of the Cold War looks sideways at this replay taking place on the other side of Eurasia - and it's not just down to 'Russian arms deals'. 

So. You condone the Indian Army committing atrocities in Kashmir?

[Highlandmagar]

2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

It's outrageous that we're criticising Russia for shelling Ukrainian cities, Genghis Khan did far worse.

Yeah. That Mongol horde were a bit naughty.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

It's outrageous that we're criticising Russia for shelling Ukrainian cities, Genghis Khan did far worse.

Aye but only within their legitimate sphere of influence and while they were doing that, America was ... zzzzzzzzzzz

[Wee-Bey]

Aye, it's almost as if the rules are applied differently to different countries.

This is a good thing though and definitely doesn't lead to issues and grievances.

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:

So. You condone the Indian Army committing atrocities in Kashmir?

Does it automatically prevent any Indian from legitimately criticising US atrocities and/or foreign policy? Absolutely not. 

In fact, it's not even relevant.