stu2910 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I hope everyone complaining that no progress was being made or thinking this isn’t serious can now at least recognise the amount of work that’s been done just to get this far. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Article in the Courier this morning written by Nelms. Will probably be in trouble for posting it here but well known workarounds do work. Makes a point of stressing that the debt involved won't sit with the club and that the "repayment" will be significantly cheaper than spending £700k a year to keep Dens going. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 What does a taxi from the station to that site cost (For those of us that don't have jetpacks) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 13 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: What does a taxi from the station to that site cost (For those of us that don't have jetpacks) Now? About £10. Unknown how much it would cost with extra traffic etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 30/12/2023 at 13:44, Alan_G said: The finance is definitely in place, ignore that after buying DFC it took them a decade to scrape together enough money to also buy back the Scott Fyffe Roundabout At Dens Park or whatever it's called this week. It’s the Scott Fyffe circle actually 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: What does a taxi from the station to that site cost (For those of us that don't have jetpacks) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) @Alan_G has become less bullish and more bullshit as this has gone on. It's been wonderful. Edited March 6 by Derry Alli 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Old man danger said it was pie in the sky as well, wonder what happened to that chunt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoP Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 The article without paywall https://archive.is/qXMnw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_G Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Derry Alli said: @Alan_G has become less bullish and more bullshit as this has gone on. It's been wonderful. I think I maybe posted twice in this thread, hardly worth a call out. Will see when a spade hits the ground. Moneys still on "they'll sell Dens and the houses and do a runner". Useless council suggested the site so no point objecting to yet more stuff being built on Camperdown. See above though, debt not with Dundee so how many shell companies are involved in the shenanigans of maybe definitely building a stadium. Given you had to pay Strachan in penny shares instead of actual money it seems you don't have the £150m or whatever the figure is sitting at now. One thing I have never seen adressed in any of this though is: if Dens can't be renovated cos the ancient stand is listed so can't be modified or knocked down etc, then the first part of the plan "sell Dens ground first for housing etc" has a wee snag in it no? Is the stand just gonna stay there rotting forever? (like Dens currently is) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 14 minutes ago, Alan_G said: One thing I have never seen adressed in any of this though is: if Dens can't be renovated cos the ancient stand is listed so can't be modified or knocked down etc, then the first part of the plan "sell Dens ground first for housing etc" has a wee snag in it no? Is the stand just gonna stay there rotting forever? (like Dens currently is) Wooden stands are very susceptible to fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 22 minutes ago, Alan_G said: I think I maybe posted twice in this thread, hardly worth a call out. Will see when a spade hits the ground. Moneys still on "they'll sell Dens and the houses and do a runner". Useless council suggested the site so no point objecting to yet more stuff being built on Camperdown. See above though, debt not with Dundee so how many shell companies are involved in the shenanigans of maybe definitely building a stadium. Given you had to pay Strachan in penny shares instead of actual money it seems you don't have the £150m or whatever the figure is sitting at now. One thing I have never seen adressed in any of this though is: if Dens can't be renovated cos the ancient stand is listed so can't be modified or knocked down etc, then the first part of the plan "sell Dens ground first for housing etc" has a wee snag in it no? Is the stand just gonna stay there rotting forever? (like Dens currently is) It's a myth that it's a listed building. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Dens can't be renovated due to the ground it sits on, not because of the stand. It can be levelled and then built upon, much like St Saviours High school. Only posting twice yet coming out with that bucket of spew as a post either means 1) I've picked a user at complete random and got a corker or 2) you have indeed regurgitated complete nonsense (and continue to do so). I'd like to say it was 1, I'm heavily towards 2 though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingermunkie Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Tell ya what, even speaking as a non Dundee fan, I really hope this gets built for a couple of reasons. 1) new stadiums are cool. 2) I’ll never need to see someone comment on a courier article that thinks it’s getting built on the park ever again. Edited March 7 by gingermunkie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 11 hours ago, Alan_G said: I think I maybe posted twice in this thread, hardly worth a call out. Will see when a spade hits the ground. Moneys still on "they'll sell Dens and the houses and do a runner". Useless council suggested the site so no point objecting to yet more stuff being built on Camperdown. See above though, debt not with Dundee so how many shell companies are involved in the shenanigans of maybe definitely building a stadium. Given you had to pay Strachan in penny shares instead of actual money it seems you don't have the £150m or whatever the figure is sitting at now. One thing I have never seen adressed in any of this though is: if Dens can't be renovated cos the ancient stand is listed so can't be modified or knocked down etc, then the first part of the plan "sell Dens ground first for housing etc" has a wee snag in it no? Is the stand just gonna stay there rotting forever? (like Dens currently is) 11 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: It's a myth that it's a listed building. Whether it's a listed building or not is a moot point as it is possible to get planning permission to alter a listed building - there are just hoops to jump through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, hk blues said: Whether it's a listed building or not is a moot point as it is possible to get planning permission to alter a listed building - there are just hoops to jump through. We already have planning permission to demolish a listed building at the new site as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 6 minutes ago, stu2910 said: We already have planning permission to demolish a listed building at the new site as well. Right. I actually just took a shifty at the list of listed buildings in Dundee and there was no mention of the Dens Park stand. The 'Clep Bar' was on it though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, hk blues said: Right. I actually just took a shifty at the list of listed buildings in Dundee and there was no mention of the Dens Park stand. The 'Clep Bar' was on it though! Love it - listed buildings are often a bit weird. My in-laws have a potting shed attached to the back if their house which is listed, but the house isn't! Like someone decided that this great historical potting shed couldn't be lost, so they built an entire house attached to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, stu2910 said: Love it - listed buildings are often a bit weird. My in-laws have a potting shed attached to the back if their house which is listed, but the house isn't! Like someone decided that this great historical potting shed couldn't be lost, so they built an entire house attached to it. There are a few strange ones on the list - take a look if you get the chance anytime. It's from Wikipedia though, so I can't vouch for the accuracy! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_listed_buildings_in_Dundee/4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 hours ago, Alan_G said: I think I maybe posted twice in this thread, hardly worth a call out. Will see when a spade hits the ground. Moneys still on "they'll sell Dens and the houses and do a runner". Useless council suggested the site so no point objecting to yet more stuff being built on Camperdown. See above though, debt not with Dundee so how many shell companies are involved in the shenanigans of maybe definitely building a stadium. Given you had to pay Strachan in penny shares instead of actual money it seems you don't have the £150m or whatever the figure is sitting at now. One thing I have never seen adressed in any of this though is: if Dens can't be renovated cos the ancient stand is listed so can't be modified or knocked down etc, then the first part of the plan "sell Dens ground first for housing etc" has a wee snag in it no? Is the stand just gonna stay there rotting forever? (like Dens currently is) I don’t think it is a listed structure. Have you read something I haven’t about the stand? Perhaps you are thinking of another one of Archibald Leitch’s creations? Perhaps the red brick main stand at Ibrox which I believe has B list status. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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