Southsideforever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: Don’t bite gents. Anyone raising the spectre of Mackay is at the wind-up. Or not actually a QP fan. Or both. Best to ignore. I am not advocating for a new manager, I want Veldman to continue to move us forward and develop a system to work long into the future. All I was saying is, if we were looking for a manager MM would be a good option. Sure, he has made mistakes who has not? I am sure he has learnt from his experiences and moved forward. We want people to change and learn and not be punished forever. He has substantial football knowledge and a Queens Park heritage and so would be worth considering. Edited December 2, 2023 by Southsideforever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPEast Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Southsideforever said: He has substantial football knowledge and a Queens Park heritage and so would be worth considering. We’re not looking for a guy who gets 5/5 on the sports round at the pub quiz, we're after someone that wins games, something that MM does not do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjameos Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Fife spider said: Ok I take it that’s a no. I have no time for racism in any form and while that is obviously wrong why do we accept the bile that comes down from the stand at two particular grounds in Glasgow. I grew up in Glasgow and have been there with qp , sat in the stand with my then eight year old daughter and was called far worse than what mackay’s email said. So it’s rightly wrong to call out comments on skin colour but you can say anything you like about their religious beliefs. Wouldn't set my moral compass by the actions of those sets of supporters. Would like to think most reasonable people would see the bile from them as embarrassing and unacceptable. However there's not much can be done individually against a mob as neither of the clubs or higher bodies appear to have much of an appetite to stamp it out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletar Spider Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Southsideforever said: We want people to change and learn and not be punished forever. Since outing himself as p***k Mackay has been appointed manager of Wigan in the English Championship and Ross County in the Scottish Premiership. Between those jobs he spent four years in a lucrative position as performance director with the SFA. Sounds like an odd sort of punishment to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southsideforever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Skeletar Spider said: Since outing himself as p***k Mackay has been appointed manager of Wigan in the English Championship and Ross County in the Scottish Premiership. Between those jobs he spent four years in a lucrative position as performance director with the SFA. Sounds like an odd sort of punishment to me. Punishment is people saying he should not be considered for a management position because of history. Experience of playing for Queens Park, Norwich, Celtic, West Ham, Watford, Scotland and managing at Watford, Cardiff, Wigan, Ross County and Scotland is a lot. I can't think of many managers in Championship with this level of experience? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletar Spider Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Southsideforever said: Punishment is people saying he should not be considered for a management position because of history. No, that's expressing an opinion. Not being considered for management positions would have constituted a punishment, but as his CV indicates, this hasn't been the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southsideforever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeletar Spider said: No, that's expressing an opinion. Not being considered for management positions would have constituted a punishment, but as his CV indicates, this hasn't been the case. Its a punitive expression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, Skeletar Spider said: Since outing himself as p***k Mackay has been appointed manager of Wigan in the English Championship and Ross County in the Scottish Premiership. Between those jobs he spent four years in a lucrative position as performance director with the SFA. Sounds like an odd sort of punishment to me. Aye, it’s a bit like those folk tour TV studios and drop several newspaper columns per year, claiming to have been silenced. Other clubs can do what they want, but their involvement with Mackay leaves a stain behind. Worth noting, by the way, that Dave Whelan, who gave him his route back in also has form for racism. A real meeting of minds. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/31/dave-whelan-banned-six-weeks-guardian-interview 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiders For Life Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Southsideforever said: Punishment is people saying he should not be considered for a management position because of history. Experience of playing for Queens Park, Norwich, Celtic, West Ham, Watford, Scotland and managing at Watford, Cardiff, Wigan, Ross County and Scotland is a lot. I can't think of many managers in Championship with this level of experience? Experience does not equal competence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williebraveheart Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Southsideforever said: Its a punitive expression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider1975 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Probably just page filler but interesting that Steve Clark, whilst praising Lesser as a Training facility, goes on to state that he continues to look for better facilities for the National Team. Bit of a kick in the b*lls for QP if not only have you cocked up a 'stadium', but you're also told it's already being muted as being obsolete as a training facility. Maybe the Women's team might get to play there after all. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/steve-clarke-told-sfa-scotland-31597518 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Spider Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 That's interesting stuff. Add this in to the long-term planning, 4D chess lottery... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byekick Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Latest edition of the Tifo podcast on Ligue 1 might be interesting from a QP / youth development perspective: https://pod.link/1227699368 They talk quite a bit about the level of youth development in France's top league (radically so, if you're comparing it to Scotland) and some of the related challenges, including high levels of individual mistakes (hmm, sounds familiar). A quote from Graham Potter about academy players sometimes taking around 50(!) games to adjust raised an eyebrow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Do tickets have to be purchased on line? Or can they be bought on the day at the stadium? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntiethumper Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, PB1994 said: Do tickets have to be purchased on line? Or can they be bought on the day at the stadium? Usually have to be bought online but normally available right up to kick-off and sometimes up until half time (for late arrivals). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Anonymous Spider said: That's interesting stuff. Add this in to the long-term planning, 4D chess lottery... Four or five years into “professionalism” and we’ve not yet managed to get beyond a tactic of waiting until things are on fire before reacting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Rico Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Sunday 10th December QPWFC play their biggest home game of the season, a top of the table clash, at ……..….New Tinto Park. Wednesday 13th December Celtic under 19s play Feyenoord at……..…Lesser Hampden. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Spider Rico said: Sunday 10th December QPWFC play their biggest home game of the season, a top of the table clash, at ……..….New Tinto Park. Wednesday 13th December Celtic under 19s play Feyenoord at……..…Lesser Hampden. A game I’d go to, but would need to give up four hours of my day to navigate shit public transport and watch the game. Could even offer all the free tickets they want for this one and it wouldn’t matter. It’s not cost that’s stopping people from going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QP's in my DNA Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I just wonder where this fits in with "blazers plans ???? I must admit his role was low key, I'd forgotten he was at the club. https://queensparkfc.co.uk/gardner-speirs-leaves-queens-park/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, QP's in my DNA said: I just wonder where this fits in with "blazers plans ???? I must admit his role was low key, I'd forgotten he was at the club. https://queensparkfc.co.uk/gardner-speirs-leaves-queens-park/ Aye, I’d just assumed he had gone when we turned pro. Real mixed bag in his time as manager. Signed David Anderson and brought on a lot of the generation through who went on to bigger and better things. In my view, we didn’t actually maximise what we had at that time. Squads that weren’t as strong went on to achieve more. Can’t argue with that number of years of service to the club, though. Wish him well for whatever is next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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